Bullfrog North (Executive) Ramp

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Who cares whether it’s officially “closed” or not. It was never “open”. Go back through the low water updates and you’ll see NPS “closed” the whole north end in Jan but people found that spur and used it for the last several weeks. Now they are “closing” it again. This is a joke. People will do what they gotta do, and NPS will do what they gotta do. The north cement ramp was being used for 2 weeks while water was below the “open” level of 3525. The cement was cured and May 1 was opening date and people started launching off the gravel. NPS even had barriers at the top which people just drove around. Another joke.
 
We were down there and pulled out last Thursday. Exec ramp was great. At that time it was only one lane but worked great. We were told the check station was closed that day so there would be no inspection. If we wanted the boats cleaned we would have to go to Hanksville. We stoped there but it was broken. Find you own cleaning station we were told.
 
To get to the dirt ramp, you had to drive through the spur at the bottom of the main ramp.

I'm curious about this as well because it will also lead to larger crowds at the north ramp if that spur & dirt ramp is inaccessible and unusable.
 
We were down there and pulled out last Thursday. Exec ramp was great. At that time it was only one lane but worked great. We were told the check station was closed that day so there would be no inspection. If we wanted the boats cleaned we would have to go to Hanksville. We stoped there but it was broken. Find you own cleaning station we were told.
Another government pork project comes crashing down to it's inevitable failure (mussel inspection). "Do this or we will issue you huge fines, except our station is closed and there's no way to do this." It's like working with the IRS.
 
We were at the Executive ramp Monday. All size boats launching with no problem. It's about 3 wide, they moved a buoy and barricade off the north side Monday (it was there on Saturday). Main ramp was high and dry and the main ramp was closed as there was equipment out there and I couldn't tell what they were doing - but no launching there. We were told Saturday to go to mussell station after we pull out but it was closed mid-day on Monday.
Full trip report coming (we kayaked across Bullfrog and hiked Halls). LOTs of fish spawning (?). Water is coming up into new brush in the tributaries. Crossing Halls Creek bay was surreal with squishyness under the 12" of dried lake bed.

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please post more pictures and thanks for sharing!
 
Main ramp (concrete): I believe high and dry.

Spur off the left side (going down) main ramp (dirt): Was a workable option earlier this year and I would guess it still is. However, I don’t know current status. We were launched by Dry Storage from there last summer.

North ramp / exec services / ranger ramp (was dirt and now extended with concrete): Was told today by Exec Services this ramp is fully functional at 3529’ and today we’re at 3536’. I made slip / trip reservations for July, August with a prayer, and September with big doubts.

Love everyone’s experience posts and pictures — thank you! 😎 🚤 🏄‍♀️

PS … our 6th granddaughter was born this week ,,, how cool is that?! 💕
 
Main ramp (concrete): I believe high and dry.

Spur off the left side (going down) main ramp (dirt): Was a workable option earlier this year and I would guess it still is. However, I don’t know current status. We were launched by Dry Storage from there last summer.

North ramp / exec services / ranger ramp (was dirt and now extended with concrete): Was told today by Exec Services this ramp is fully functional at 3529’ and today we’re at 3536’. I made slip / trip reservations for July, August with a prayer, and September with big doubts.

Love everyone’s experience posts and pictures — thank you! 😎 🚤 🏄‍♀️

PS … our 6th granddaughter was born this week ,,, how cool is that?! 💕
Congratulations on your new granddaughter
 
It has been a while since I have been on, so apologies if there is a post somewhere in here already addressing/answering this topic and question. I noticed on the NPS ramp condition link that there is planned construction to extend the executive (Bullfrog North) ramp with a completion date of April 2022. Does anyone know if this has even started? Any pictures? Our annual trip in normally the first week of May, but this would be hampered if there is no way to launch. Any info is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

P-O-C
Launching will be no problem. Have a great time!
 
Last year soil moisture was much drier than this year, so less water actually made it down to Powell. Our spring months of April and May can still bring some nice precip…as I write this Monday evening a potent storm is giving us a nice snowfall here in Salt Lake area and promises to replenish Colorado River headwaters over next 48 hours. Finally, releases from the dam down to Mead are far lower this spring than in 2021, so less water is going down the drain. It is true that predictions for runoff are far below normal, but I bet we squeezer out 10-15 feet of water level increase from where we have flatlined now, which means this ramp should be viable through maybe the end of July. Barring any early season huge monsoons, the water levels will be dropping fast by then.
Well, it looks like we've peaked at just under 3540 at 3539.84 which only ended up being a 17.6' rise from the low point. Dougie's prediction of a 10-15 foot rise was pretty dang close. I really would have preferred to see a 30 foot rise but we got what we got.
 
With seeing @JFRCalifornia 's post the other day about BOR predicting a low of 3505 by next spring, it makes me wonder if/how they'll "take advantage" of the low water levels this fall/winter. I know there are practical limitations on how low they could go at Bullfrog Main, but with the water being that low, I wonder if it'll become appealing to even try getting another 10-15 vertical feet out of that ramp.

I would think, at the very least, that they'd continue extending the north ramp as the Lake drops (like they've done at Stateline).
 
It takes some work to get ramp info as well as water projection predictions by date.

I have e.mailed the fine folks over at the Lake Powell Water Database asking if they could expand the ramps shown on their front page to include all the newer operating, noting for example, at Bullfrog that would be the North Ramp (by Executive Services and rented boat slips). It is my understanding that it is usable for small craft if water is over 3,525' and for larger craft, including houseboats, if the water is over 3,529'. We had no trouble launching and retrieving our Nautique July 7-11 while the water hovered around 3,539'.

I think we are good for our July30-Aug7 trip but I will be cancelling our plans for Labor Day as I just don't feel good that we'll actually be able to eek that one out. I give it less than 50-50 and it's an expensive trip to plan and not be able to take.

I'll post some fun picks -- Gregory Arch in Fifty Mile Canyon on the Escalante was amazing as was seeing the new waterfall height at Cathedral in the Desert.

Also -- In my opinion, the Bay is drying up and it's probably time for the Lake team to support the adventure of putting the Bullfrog ramp out on Stanson Creek where it would plop into the main canyon.

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With seeing @JFRCalifornia 's post the other day about BOR predicting a low of 3505 by next spring, it makes me wonder if/how they'll "take advantage" of the low water levels this fall/winter. I know there are practical limitations on how low they could go at Bullfrog Main, but with the water being that low, I wonder if it'll become appealing to even try getting another 10-15 vertical feet out of that ramp.

I would think, at the very least, that they'd continue extending the north ramp as the Lake drops (like they've done at Stateline).

Hey Skibum when I was out there in early May at 3523' I did a BUNCH of water depth measurements throughout Bullfrog and Halls. I plan on doing a post with pics on that at some point...maybe when we get back down to 3523. I even messaged you abou the Halls ramp. Well about 60 feet from the end of the Exec ramp at that 3523 level the water was only about 5-6 feet deep. About 150 feet put it was maybe 10-12 feet. I think it pretty much flattens out to around 3510 in that area. Slips were in about 25-30 feet. They NEED to be investigating a new ramp location closer to the main channel over the winter.

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Hey Skibum when I was out there in early May at 3523' I did a BUNCH of water depth measurements throughout Bullfrog and Halls. I plan on doing a post with pics on that at some point...maybe when we get back down to 3523. I even messaged you abou the Halls ramp. Well about 60 feet from the end of the Exec ramp at that 3523 level the water was only about 5-6 feet deep. About 150 feet put it was maybe 10-12 feet. I think it pretty much flattens out to around 3510 in that area. Slips were in about 25-30 feet. They NEED to be investigating a new ramp location closer to the main channel over the winter.

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Maybe the north ramp is as low as their able to go. You’d hope that the Lake will never see levels like this again, which may make some feel as though it’s not worth spending too much time and money extending things further. But I’m sure if the Superintendent could go back in time to one of his predecessors, he’d tell them to plan for the worst to save the headache later.
 
Maybe the north ramp is as low as their able to go. You’d hope that the Lake will never see levels like this again, which may make some feel as though it’s not worth spending too much time and money extending things further. But I’m sure if the Superintendent could go back in time to one of his predecessors, he’d tell them to plan for the worst to save the headache later.

Yeah unfortunately I think that 3505 is what we're going to be staring at beginning of May next year. Bullfrog is going to hanging on by a thread. And just like any winter we'll have a pretty good picture by early April if we need to start panicking or if there is cold, white help on the way. I'm still just trying to get our houseboat on the water this season before the lake drops too much for Exec. Our bouy is in the south field, my measurements in May showed 30' there so it might stay there or Aramark might move all of them to the expanding Halls Bouyfield at some point.
 
Maybe the north ramp is as low as their able to go. You’d hope that the Lake will never see levels like this again, which may make some feel as though it’s not worth spending too much time and money extending things further. But I’m sure if the Superintendent could go back in time to one of his predecessors, he’d tell them to plan for the worst to save the headache later.
Someone on here had posted the minimum level for marina operations at Bullfrog was 3510. Not sure the source of that information.
 
July 19-24 north ramp in BF was easy going. 3 lanes if folks know how to back a trailer properly which is hit and miss. Aramark took an hour to take out a houseboat. Kinda odd to see professionals have such a hard time with a slight south wind. Stay in the channel markers! Friend kissed the bottom just outside of a green marker 1/2 way from BF to Halls in a surf boat. Plenty of spots for a HB to belly up and begin the good times!
 
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