Minimum Lake Level for Marinas

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From our friendly stats website provider the current count of af above LP even with such a rotten monsoon season and poor runoff is:

List Totals2025-08-2110,344,6407,561,22873.09 %

7.5maf is not peanuts, even if 3/4 of that is spoken for and cannot be released downstream in case of emergency that's still a significant chunk of water available. Yes, I'm sure they don't want to let it go if they don't have to (it's likely better to keep it where it is cooler anyways) but it is there.

Today's update:

List Totals2025-09-0610,344,6407,332,58370.88 %
 
I saw video of mid August where they had the internal tunnels open in what it said was an attempt to drop the temperature of the river quickly and kill off any small mouth bass. Here's hoping there are no more of those releases needed anytime soon!

The total dam releases for August /September did not change with the cold water releases for the Small Mouth Bass. They decreased the power plant releases and increased the bypass releases to cool the water. No affect to lake levels but hopefully a deleterious affect on the Small mouth Bass below the dam.
 
Yeah, I’m probably being naive, but it feels like maybe a crisis now could make for a better long term future sooner.

They have known of overuse and overallocation for so many years that I really do not have much sympathy for the farmers or people who've contributed to the mess and I do think that yes they should be a part of the payment for solving it - the overall society is also going to be paying one way or another (and it is right now too) so we're not pushing all of this off on the farmers - everyone is taking a hit and everyone should be.

What I would like to see instead of fingerpointing and complaining actual plans being continued for bringing the overpumping into compliance and then everyone can get back to doing things with what is actually available instead of harming everything else even more than it already is.

There should be flows for some rivers to keep fish, animals and plants alive. Yes I know it's an arid climate and things vary, but if we keep ruining them there's not going to be much left on this planet left to sustain us. Top level omnivores are very destructive if there's no self-regulation to keep them from consuming everything available until the population crashes. Do we as a species want that? I sure don't want to see it myself. If we do things smartly and pay attention to what the planet is telling us I think we can do sustainable agriculture for our current level of people but I do not think we are currently practicing sustainable much of anything. I sure hope for changes and seeing improvement instead of degradation. I hope - I do not know...

Fallowed lands could be brought back into production as the balances are regained and relearning how to do arid and dryland farming. it's not impossible, cacti will grow and actually much can be done with smart land use practices. The question really seems to always come down to pay now or pay a lot more later and so far it seems that everyone wants to pay a lot more later because then it doesn't affect them, but then they don't seem to understand that it is going to harm their decendents... :(

Sooner done is sooner done.
 
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Yeah, I’m probably being naive, but it feels like maybe a crisis now could make for a better long term future sooner.
Real change for the better is almost always precipitated through crisis, but rarely in the absence of crisis. I'm no advocate for a water and power crisis in the Southwest, but I am confident in the human ability to innovate and adapt if such a crisis unfolds. The simple fact that humans have figured out how to adapt to every corner of the planet in numbers multiple times our natural sustainable population (for better or worse) when without technology and tools we'd be limited to our natural moderately-warm savanna grassland habitat is ample evidence of that.
 
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