Can’t resist thus one. Many many years ago a group of us were fishing for perch and having a “fun” contest for perch at Deer Creek an unnamed lady angler in the group had heard about the ballon trick. She put about 6 feet of mono with a small hook into the back fin and let it go. Her husband saw the ballon and said what the “blank” you can do that!! Well all the sudden the perch attached to that balloon went into overdrive the ballon almost went under! One of the guys in a float tube started chasing it around finally got a hold of it drug it over to the boat group and handed it off the husband he pulls in a 29 inch about 10lb brown. He was so embarrassed he threw the fish back without anyone getting a picture!!I was once told by a customer how to catch all the Crappies you want. You need 2 basic things besides your fishing gear.
1. A balloon
2. A loaded BB gun
He told me this. When you catch your first Crappie, blow up the balloon, tie some fishing line to it with a hook on the end. 10 feet of line will do. You then hook the line to the dorsal fin of the Crappie and release the fish.
You can then follow the balloon around and virtually catch Crappie all day long.
Of course, I had to ask....
What about the BB gun? What's that for?
He said, "When you see a Ranger coming your way, you shoot the balloon and get rid of the evidence."
This is a joke. Don't do it! haha
You just remined me of something we saw in Red Canyon years ago. We were trolling around and noticed a float someone had lost and went over to pick it up. When I grabbed it there was a line attached, with a schooly striper attached to it! Guessing someone tried the same technique with a striper school!I was once told by a customer how to catch all the Crappies you want. You need 2 basic things besides your fishing gear.
1. A balloon
2. A loaded BB gun
He told me this. When you catch your first Crappie, blow up the balloon, tie some fishing line to it with a hook on the end. 10 feet of line will do. You then hook the line to the dorsal fin of the Crappie and release the fish.
You can then follow the balloon around and virtually catch Crappie all day long.
Of course, I had to ask....
What about the BB gun? What's that for?
He said, "When you see a Ranger coming your way, you shoot the balloon and get rid of the evidence."
This is a joke. Don't do it! haha
I have the LV34--Just got this winter--I also ice fish for lakers on Flaming Gorge-- I am having trouble in deeper water(83Ft) -- I have to use 100% Gain to see my 6" jig , but there is a lot of "noise"--Could you share any advice?cojoe,
It was cropped out in your photo, great image BTW, but what is the practical range of Mega 360? I've found LS to be closer to about half what is claimed. Vertically I can go to 100' pretty easily after lakers, for forward facing its closer to 75'-80'.
Yeah Gary, I can't consistently see my jig that deep either, unless your really ripping it. I don't worry about it too much though, I know its right below me, and I can feel where the bottom is. The important thing to me is that the fish show up well and I can see how they're reacting. I'm never more than a couple inches off bottom with a jig. If we're using spoons I'll come up further in the column, and they seem to show up better on the scope. You can play with the color limit setting to clean up some of the noise, but I think it filter's out some of the weaker returns as well. Still a learning curve for me too!I have the LV34--Just got this winter--I also ice fish for lakers on Flaming Gorge-- I am having trouble in deeper water(83Ft) -- I have to use 100% Gain to see my 6" jig , but there is a lot of "noise"--Could you share any advice?
I have looked on U-Tube but haven't found any help for deeper water-- The deepest I have on there was 53FT--I bought the ice fishing Xducer to use in deeper water-- One thing I haven't done yet is to use the split screen to use both at the same time. The ice fishing guides on the Gorge all seem to be using LiveScope but I haven't talked with any about this--They seem to fish shallower water-- I need to try thatYeah Gary, I can't consistently see my jig that deep either, unless your really ripping it. I don't worry about it too much though, I know its right below me, and I can feel where the bottom is. The important thing to me is that the fish show up well and I can see how they're reacting. I'm never more than a couple inches off bottom with a jig. If we're using spoons I'll come up further in the column, and they seem to show up better on the scope. You can play with the color limit setting to clean up some of the noise, but I think it filter's out some of the weaker returns as well. Still a learning curve for me too!
My buddy has the same issues with deep water. Beyond 60-70' it gets hard to locate fish, especially when they are right on the bottom. But there have been days where he spots them suspended in deep water well away from the hole, and we move and catch them. It definitely is not the end-all tool, but sometimes it really changes a tough day into a successful one. I find that it is a great tool for your buddy to ownI have looked on U-Tube but haven't found any help for deeper water-- The deepest I have on there was 53FT--I bought the ice fishing Xducer to use in deeper water-- One thing I haven't done yet is to use the split screen to use both at the same time. The ice fishing guides on the Gorge all seem to be using LiveScope but I haven't talked with any about this--They seem to fish shallower water-- I need to try that
Bottom separation is definitely not a strong point for LS, for perch and walleye hugging the bottom I'll take my Vexilar all day. However +20# lakers show up just fine at 80' on LS!My buddy has the same issues with deep water. Beyond 60-70' it gets hard to locate fish, especially when they are right on the bottom. But there have been days where he spots them suspended in deep water well away from the hole, and we move and catch them. It definitely is not the end-all tool, but sometimes it really changes a tough day into a successful one. I find that it is a great tool for your buddy to own![]()
I didn't tell a lot of people about North wash that year, and only saw one other boat the whole great time I fished it. And they had been told by a guy I toldI learned from KYKEVIN and flipper in north wash ,find small tree,s 1/8 oz under spin chartreuse 2 " lemon meringue jig body tipped with gulp maggots 10 to 30 feet of water. on my own i have found sz 4 rapala any and a 1/8 oz chatter bait smaller than regular chatter bait ,wal mart carries them murder on stripers. its going to be crazy with all the tumble weeds and flow debris ,i like to stop and fan cast till i find them they are never alone , on 4 lb nothing fights like crappie , try to let the dark males go they protect the nest and the young . good fishing LWH .

I think @cojoe should get a referral fee from Hummingbird!!! Not sure if all this talk about crappies is what got you to go shopping but that still shot of the mega 360 imaging has me wanting to buy one and I don’t even have a boat!Well all this talk about mega 360 I decide this morning to blow another 1100 bucks. We shall see if it's worth it. Only downside is I can't put it on my Ulterra they say it's to heavy so I am thinking about how I can mount it. Maybe somehow attach it to my livescope pole. Hope it doesn't interfere with that. I did a little internet search sounds like if I keep it above the livescope I should be fine. View attachment 21722
Take a look at this video, it helps explain the difference between Mega 360 and Mega Live and where each is most effective. Coho 975’s feedback below is good as well. The 360 is a more passive device - just watch the screen as you slowly move around, while the Mega Live needs to be pointed at the fish kind of like a flashlight. The 360 can be particularly effective at Powell looking for suspended fish in deeper water.cojoe
I am very intrigued by your image made by your Mega 360. I have considered getting the newer Garmin live image but have just not pulled the trigger yet. The wife tells me that we catch too many fish all ready, and why would I want something that expensive just to have to clean more fish. I have very little luck finding fish with any fish finder that I have ever had. I currently have a hummingbird, can't remember the model but it was around $800 best I remember. Got it because of the lake mapping capabilities it had. Use it mostly for depth and temperature. Catch fish mostly off of knowledge and experience. That being said, this technique often lets me down at times, and I would like to get something that would show fish similar to the picture you showed, and fishing with someone a couple of days that could train me on how to use it.
Look forward to what you and others have to say, and I will put in my two cents worth on the crappies later.
Thanks in advance
Flipper
I usually have my Mega 360 set at 60’ range - seems to be the best for good image clarity while scanning far enough out to show you everything within a short casting range. When in open deep water I’ll go out as far as 100 ft as its pretty easy to spot fish when the bottom isn’t visible. For my Mega Live my experience is about the same as yours, I usually have the range at 60’ when scanning forward to see how the fish are reacting to my lure.cojoe,
It was cropped out in your photo, great image BTW, but what is the practical range of Mega 360? I've found LS to be closer to about half what is claimed. Vertically I can go to 100' pretty easily after lakers, for forward facing its closer to 75'-80'.
JackThis was my best catch of Crappie up in the San Juan . . Have not been able to reproduce this again at Powell. So many Striper's I have to catchI need to learn some more about catching them. I need listen to KY Kevin. He knows how to catch'em. Will try that out next time I am there.
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