Question on Bullfrog Marina Location!!!

[Marina Bum]

That really does suck. I wonder if you have any recourse. If the Lake Powell Yacht Club was still alive they'd know. I wonder what happened to the LPYC anyway.

The LPYC is still going but not in the same form it once was. Charles Stoddard, a local Page attorney who helped to found the organization fifty years ago advocated for boaters for many years with his knowledge of the law and his local connections. He’s deep into retirement now and last I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was living near Tucson and golfing everyday. His wife Verna, also a force in the community passed away a few yeas ago.

Times changed too, Park Service employees and managers get shipped in and out too quickly, directors don’t last long either. Most of the personnel aren’t from here or here long enough to become members of the community, the kind of folks Chuck and Verna knew and could lobby. Staff and resources have thinned too for PS and regulations have increased. In my opinion the Government at large has become much less accountable to us peasants in general than ever. Many events formerly held by local groups were chased off of the lake over regulations, insurance and liability issues as well as the attitudes of local and national staff. To me we now live in a situation where you need to be well funded and willing to sue the government just to be heard. The days of government agencies feeling accountable to the people and working together with regular folks are long gone as I see it. Now it seems to be the other way around, they run things the way they see fit and they are too big to fail and if you don’t like that or decisions they make file suit. It’s a sad situation. Everything is way too litigious these days.

 

[Keith Stockman]

The LPYC is still going but not in the same form it once was. Charles Stoddard, a local Page attorney who helped to found the organization fifty years ago advocated for boaters for many years with his knowledge of the law and his local connections. He’s deep into retirement now and last I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was living near Tucson and golfing everyday. His wife Verna, also a force in the community passed away a few yeas ago.

Times changed too, Park Service employees and managers get shipped in and out too quickly, directors don’t last long either. Most of the personnel aren’t from here or here long enough to become members of the community, the kind of folks Chuck and Verna knew and could lobby. Staff and resources have thinned too for PS and regulations have increased. In my opinion the Government at large has become much less accountable to us peasants in general than ever. Many events formerly held by local groups were chased off of the lake over regulations, insurance and liability issues as well as the attitudes of local and national staff. To me we now live in a situation where you need to be well funded and willing to sue the government just to be heard. The days of government agencies feeling accountable to the people and working together with regular folks are long gone as I see it. Now it seems to be the other way around, they run things the way they see fit and they are too big to fail and if you don’t like that or decisions they make file suit. It’s a sad situation. Everything is way too litigious these days.

Our houseboat group was a member for several years. They helped us navigate a buoy contract dilemma years ago and then gave us some desperately needed contact information when American Reliable abruptly quit underwriting houseboat insurance. Then LPYC seemingly disappeared a couple of years ago. We'd probably rejoin if given the chance, but the club's focus really didn't include the north lake boaters.

 

[Jr B]

Oh no, what kind of changes or upgrade's?

The problem is that older houseboats have the neutral and ground wires combined as that was common practice and the new shore power circuit does not like this and will throw the breaker. I consulted with another boat owner which installed a Victron Isolator to clean the power up, I'm going down in 2 weeks to do the same to our boat and see if that does the trick. Other option is chasing all the wiring in the boat try to find all the circuts affecting the ELCI on dock but that could be time consuming.

 

[nzaugg]

The problem is that older houseboats have the neutral and ground wires combined as that was common practice and the new shore power circuit does not like this and will throw the breaker. I consulted with another boat owner which installed a Victron Isolator to clean the power up, I'm going down in 2 weeks to do the same to our boat and see if that does the trick. Other option is chasing all the wiring in the boat try to find all the circuts affecting the ELCI on dock but that could be time consuming.

We were told that we needed to two to things... first we will install a ship to shore selector switch since we can charge from either the front or back of the boat and it may be possible we are bleeding amperage through the unused connection. Once that is done, we will retest, since we are only dropping 70 mA and we need to be under 30 mA. The second step will be installation of the isolation transformer, which is expensive. This upgrade will push our our conversion to lithium batteries for another year, but if only the June users can get on the lake, it may not matter.