National Park Service is Incompetent! - They are going to get someone killed!

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For years the management of Glen Canyon has been trending downhill, never has it been as poorly run than it is today. Here are a few grievances, let me know your thoughts:
1) The 1/4" braded wire that is anchored to the canyon wall at the entrance from the main channel to Rainbow bridge. It’s used to suspend the floating buoy in at the mouth of the side canyon. As the lake has gone down the wire which was once underwater is well out of water today, creating a life-threatening hazard. Look at this picture, a boater would have almost no time to avoid striking it, as it extends 40-50 feet from the wall, and is completely unmarked. I'm no safety inspector, but you would think NPS would patrol the lake and be able to identify a manmade hazard such as this and address it immediately. Instead, I'm guessing they are writing people up for minor infractions giving kids rides behind ski boats in Padre Bay. If someone dies hitting this wire, I hope that the park service is held criminally liable.
I honestly don't know what is worse, that they will claim they didn't know about this, or that they knew about it and have done nothing to mark it... either way someone is going to get killed.
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2) The trash left behind at Dangling Rope. Years of accidental and intentional dumping into the water have left a huge amount of trash behind at the old dangling rope marina. The park service needs to send someone to clean it up, or have Aramark clean it up. I'm not talking about the usual pair of rusty sunglasses that can be found at the old lake bottom below the marina, rather whole engines, outdrives, marine batteries, chairs, barrels, etc...

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3) Buoys. Every year I report detached buoys, most of the time channel markers, but sometimes floating shallow buoys, etc. This year we saw two, one was at the entrance to dangling rope, uselessly sitting down a side canyon nearby, either it needs to be set up properly or removed. Hey, NPS, your 40-mile buoy marker has been detached for over a year now, we saw it floating freely just down lake on the north side from Dangling Rope, it’s quite dangerous with its metal counterweight and metal lighted top that does not work. You’re doing a horrible job, if I were running things people would be fired today for the total lack of competence.
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For years the management of Glen Canyon has been trending downhill, never has it been as poorly run than it is today. Here are a few grievances, let me know your thoughts:
1) The 1/4" braded wire that is anchored to the canyon wall at the entrance from the main channel to Rainbow bridge. It’s used to suspend the floating buoy in at the mouth of the side canyon. As the lake has gone down the wire which was once underwater is well out of water today, creating a life-threatening hazard. Look at this picture, a boater would have almost no time to avoid striking it, as it extends 40-50 feet from the wall, and is completely unmarked. I'm no safety inspector, but you would think NPS would patrol the lake and be able to identify a manmade hazard such as this and address it immediately. Instead, I'm guessing they are writing people up for minor infractions giving kids rides behind ski boats in Padre Bay. If someone dies hitting this wire, I hope that the park service is held criminally liable.
I honestly don't know what is worse, that they will claim they didn't know about this, or that they knew about it and have done nothing to mark it... either way someone is going to get killed.
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2) The trash left behind at Dangling Rope. Years of accidental and intentional dumping into the water have left a huge amount of trash behind at the old dangling rope marina. The park service needs to send someone to clean it up, or have Aramark clean it up. I'm not talking about the usual pair of rusty sunglasses that can be found at the old lake bottom below the marina, rather whole engines, outdrives, marine batteries, chairs, barrels, etc...

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3) Buoys. Every year I report detached buoys, most of the time channel markers, but sometimes floating shallow buoys, etc. This year we saw two, one was at the entrance to dangling rope, uselessly sitting down a side canyon nearby, either it needs to be set up properly or removed. Hey, NPS, your 40-mile buoy marker has been detached for over a year now, we saw it floating freely just down lake on the north side from Dangling Rope, it’s quite dangerous with its metal counterweight and metal lighted top that does not work. You’re doing a horrible job, if I were running things people would be fired today for the total lack of competence.
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The NPS has diverted funds that used to be used for general maintenance to emergency activities to keep the lake open, like building new ramps and relocating marinas. They simply do not have the funds or the manpower to keep up with changing water levels and dislodged channel markers let alone trash and debris. That cable at Rainbow Bridge should be taken care of. Seems like an easy fix, at least to mark it. Have they been notified of the danger? Maybe the time has come for the users of Lake Powell to pitch in and lend a hand with the maintenance, like the Trash Trackers have done over the years with trash removal.
 
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The quaggas seem to really love those man-made objects. But at least they found a comfy place to sit.
 
The NPS has diverted funds that used to be used for general maintenance to emergency activities to keep the lake open, like building new ramps and relocating marinas. They simply do not have the funds or the manpower to keep up with changing water levels and dislodged channel markers let alone trash and debris. That cable at Rainbow Bridge should be taken care of. Seems like an easy fix, at least to mark it. Have they been notified of the danger? Maybe the time has come for the users of Lake Powell to pitch in and lend a hand with the maintenance, like the Trash Trackers have done over the years with trash removal.
I get it. But how much could it realistically cost to send a big utility boat and a few workers up to Dangling Rope to clear the debris? $5,000 max?
 
We were just at Forbidding 07-30,31 pretty sure both sides had orange balls however it is always prudent to slow the ....down entering a canyon if we had our way the no wake markers would be at the mouth of most canyons,however we do agree PS could do a better job,we have seen lighted and unlighted channel markers way out of place for extended periods multiple times, so good news and bad news,bad first, don't hardly see NPS up lake ever anymore ,good news don't hardly see NPS up lake ever anymore.
For years the management of Glen Canyon has been trending downhill, never has it been as poorly run than it is today. Here are a few grievances, let me know your thoughts:
1) The 1/4" braded wire that is anchored to the canyon wall at the entrance from the main channel to Rainbow bridge. It’s used to suspend the floating buoy in at the mouth of the side canyon. As the lake has gone down the wire which was once underwater is well out of water today, creating a life-threatening hazard. Look at this picture, a boater would have almost no time to avoid striking it, as it extends 40-50 feet from the wall, and is completely unmarked. I'm no safety inspector, but you would think NPS would patrol the lake and be able to identify a manmade hazard such as this and address it immediately. Instead, I'm guessing they are writing people up for minor infractions giving kids rides behind ski boats in Padre Bay. If someone dies hitting this wire, I hope that the park service is held criminally liable.
I honestly don't know what is worse, that they will claim they didn't know about this, or that they knew about it and have done nothing to mark it... either way someone is going to get killed.
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2) The trash left behind at Dangling Rope. Years of accidental and intentional dumping into the water have left a huge amount of trash behind at the old dangling rope marina. The park service needs to send someone to clean it up, or have Aramark clean it up. I'm not talking about the usual pair of rusty sunglasses that can be found at the old lake bottom below the marina, rather whole engines, outdrives, marine batteries, chairs, barrels, etc...

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3) Buoys. Every year I report detached buoys, most of the time channel markers, but sometimes floating shallow buoys, etc. This year we saw two, one was at the entrance to dangling rope, uselessly sitting down a side canyon nearby, either it needs to be set up properly or removed. Hey, NPS, your 40-mile buoy marker has been detached for over a year now, we saw it floating freely just down lake on the north side from Dangling Rope, it’s quite dangerous with its metal counterweight and metal lighted top that does not work. You’re doing a horrible job, if I were running things people would be fired today for the total lack of competence.
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That drive looks serviceable, someone should " pick up" but wish in one hand................. Dangling Rope canyon is a dud we never went there even when it was open,our advice now is to stay out of it.
 
I get it. But how much could it realistically cost to send a big utility boat and a few workers up to Dangling Rope to clear the debris? $5,000 max?
The NPS has diverted funds that used to be used for general maintenance to emergency activities to keep the lake open, like building new ramps and relocating marinas. They simply do not have the funds or the manpower to keep up with changing water levels and dislodged channel markers let alone trash and debris. That cable at Rainbow Bridge should be taken care of. Seems like an easy fix, at least to mark it. Have they been notified of the danger? Maybe the time has come for the users of Lake Powell to pitch in and lend a hand with the maintenance, like the Trash Trackers have done over the years with trash removal.

Robert, I respectfully disagree. Like others on this post said, how much could it cost to cut the cable hanging from the wall and remove the rainbow bridge buoy so its not a life and death hazard. I guarantee it would not cost anything more than just doing their day-to-day job. Park Service could simply have one of their rangers that are out on the lake stop at the canyon entrance, attach an orange buoy to the cable so its more obvious, or simply cut the wire.

I also dont agree that its the lake users responsibility to do the work, we're paying huge fees for boat licenses, entrance fees, let alone the dollars from our taxes, they can put two guys on a service boat, one afternoon and they would put a huge dent in the Dangling Rope trash... or better yet, make Aramark clean it up, it was their marina to operate.
 
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The NPS has diverted funds that used to be used for general maintenance to emergency activities to keep the lake open, like building new ramps and relocating marinas. They simply do not have the funds or the manpower to keep up with changing water levels and dislodged channel markers let alone trash and debris. That cable at Rainbow Bridge should be taken care of. Seems like an easy fix, at least to mark it. Have they been notified of the danger? Maybe the time has come for the users of Lake Powell to pitch in and lend a hand with the maintenance, like the Trash Trackers have done over the years with trash removal.
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The Trump administration diverted at least $90 million in entrance fees collected from national parks across the U.S. to fund capital beautification projects and celebrations in Washington, D.C. Major investigative reports from outlets like 1785871712800.png⁠The New York Times and 1785871712807.png⁠The Washington Post revealed that this money went toward local upgrades ahead of the nation's 250th anniversary. [1, 2, 3]

Diverted Projects and Costs
    • Fountains and Pools: Roughly $76 million spent on nine ornamental fountains and repairs to the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, including a $13.1 million no-bid contract.
    • Celebrations: $1.6 million allocated for an oversized Fourth of July fireworks display.
    • Infrastructure: $5 million directed toward a new helipad for Marine One helicopters, alongside granite repaving at the White House. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Controversy and Criticisms
    • Backlog Impact: Park advocates note the funds were taken while national parks face a multibillion-dollar maintenance backlog and widespread staff cuts. [1, 2]
    • Legal Questions: Lawmakers, including Senator Adam Schiff, questioned whether the reallocations violated the Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act, which dictates how park fees are distributed. [1, 2, 3]



Reed, Colleagues Sound Alarm That Trump is Diverting National Park Fees from Where They are Most Needed to DC Vanity Projects
Jun 10, 2026 — In June 2026, Senators Adam Schiff (D-CA) and colleagues are demanding answers from the Trump Administration on how much federal funding is being diverted from ...
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Trump and Burgum divert park fees to D.C. ahead of July 4 - Center for Western Priorities
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For years the management of Glen Canyon has been trending downhill, never has it been as poorly run than it is today. Here are a few grievances, let me know your thoughts:
1) The 1/4" braded wire that is anchored to the canyon wall at the entrance from the main channel to Rainbow bridge. It’s used to suspend the floating buoy in at the mouth of the side canyon. As the lake has gone down the wire which was once underwater is well out of water today, creating a life-threatening hazard. Look at this picture, a boater would have almost no time to avoid striking it, as it extends 40-50 feet from the wall, and is completely unmarked. I'm no safety inspector, but you would think NPS would patrol the lake and be able to identify a manmade hazard such as this and address it immediately. Instead, I'm guessing they are writing people up for minor infractions giving kids rides behind ski boats in Padre Bay. If someone dies hitting this wire, I hope that the park service is held criminally liable.
I honestly don't know what is worse, that they will claim they didn't know about this, or that they knew about it and have done nothing to mark it... either way someone is going to get killed.
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2) The trash left behind at Dangling Rope. Years of accidental and intentional dumping into the water have left a huge amount of trash behind at the old dangling rope marina. The park service needs to send someone to clean it up, or have Aramark clean it up. I'm not talking about the usual pair of rusty sunglasses that can be found at the old lake bottom below the marina, rather whole engines, outdrives, marine batteries, chairs, barrels, etc...

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3) Buoys. Every year I report detached buoys, most of the time channel markers, but sometimes floating shallow buoys, etc. This year we saw two, one was at the entrance to dangling rope, uselessly sitting down a side canyon nearby, either it needs to be set up properly or removed. Hey, NPS, your 40-mile buoy marker has been detached for over a year now, we saw it floating freely just down lake on the north side from Dangling Rope, it’s quite dangerous with its metal counterweight and metal lighted top that does not work. You’re doing a horrible job, if I were running things people would be fired today for the total lack of competence.
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Have you sent these concerns to NPS? If not, that might be a good place to start.
 
NPS needs to pack it up and go home. They provide no value to the lake. Lots of boats, trucks etc parked.in NPS lots and slips never move for any reason. Boaters are on their own. Safety is not a word in their vocabulary. Powell is and always been a dangerous place. As water falls channel marks are a necessity. Had boats here since 1964 and still don’t take Powell for granted.
 
Regarding the Trash tracker.......Unfortunately, Aramark wouldn't fund the gas for the trash tracker to go out this year. As if Aramark is hurting for money. Shame on them! This is the time to clean up beaches while the water level is low. Tiff & her friends organized a trash clean up trip in the Wahweap bay area. She used her boat, paid for gas & scoured the beaches in the heat. Thanks for everything you do
 
NPS doesn't care anymore than Aramark does. Staffing is down so they aren't going to do any more then they have to. I doubt they will do anything while the lake levels continue to drop .They aren't concerned about the safety of others. You have to be responsible & take safety precautions
 
At this point criticism of Park Service is usually shut down by a moderator who shall not be named. I agree about the cable, someone is going to get decapitated.

I was ruminating about the same thing this morning at 6:00am while I was pumping my holding tanks near Wahweap. There was duck tape all over the suction line connections to the coupler. The coupler was leaking and it wet down my freeboard. It was impossible to use it without getting raw sewage on your hands. I almost started taking photos to post but I’ve complained about it before. The decks are loose, there are trip hazards, the wash down hoses are kinked and worn out, there are no shut off valves on the ends or hose reels. It looks like a third world country over there.

In the 80’s and 90’s the park was free to get into and boat on and everything was in great shape; it was a matter of National pride. I’m so happy that the last Director schemed to raise a half million dollars on extra taxes in the form of increased fees to boat here only to send it to DC. Would it be too much to ask if we could use some here to have working pump out stations?
 
Im going to chime in on this one a little later and support the OP ctrldata in a big way…

Hmmmm - i need to pause for a moment and pick the words carefully as to not offend the flock.

More to come… hopefully Bart does not whip out his prized feather censorship pen and close this thread…

Powell needs a PRO SAFETY channel to express safety related concerns…
 
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