Just a heads up concerning Wahweap bay and the marina.

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Hmmm...the Wahweap cam is Still stuck on Tuesday evening...you can see the boat. Maybe they froze it so we can't see how it is doing as they recover it?
 
For sure it will be rebuilt.

The other new Bravada Invictus had major remodel done to it to fix construction issues and I think this boat will need the same treatment. The hull and exterior are fine. Just needs some work on ceilings and interiors. Given the boat was not running when it took on water will make it easier to repair the systems. Fresh water damage is way easier to repair than if it was salt water. The key will be getting the water out of the engines and new oil in before it rust.

I think for what the insurance will sell it for and what it will take to get it fixed and back on the water someone can make some money on it.

Mike
 
Go on line to: Pearl Houseboat for sale to the Pop boat broker for sale site. Take a look at the video tour and photos of this boat, The Pearl, for sale info. These are recent videos and photos done probably between Feb and April 2024 in the Page boat yard that takes care of our boat. I know the video and photo's are recent because the video includes shots of our boat in this yard at the same time and I know when ours was there. The images and sales presentation is terrible! The boat is a mess with interior water damage on walls; dirty, removed or missing appliances; etc. For a 5 year old boat it is in horrible shape.
I perceive the owner as one that: A) has poor pride of ownership and care of this boat, and B) was trying to dump it ASAP, as evidenced by the 2 or 3 drops in listed price over the past few months. In the sales listing it states: "Reason for selling is "Life Changes. Baby". Why did it sink????

Before this sinking incident it was listed for $749,000. From the information on POP Boat Trader link above: 1) it is underpowered, propelled with the Merc 4.3 V6 and smaller single prop Merc outdrive. 2) There is no generator or invertor to run the refers and freezers as a minimum listed in the boats electrical equipment. 3) Before the sinking, I would estimate it would take $50K to renovate, refit, and get the boat up to a reasonable, usable condition and standard. Then given it's apparent "colorful and troubling" issues since its launch, plus all of the many other issues, I think a Marine Inspector would put this boats fair market value at around $500K - maybe??

Now with the cost to recover the boat and then replace, repair, and refit from all of the water damage to the mechanical and as well as 'house' side of this boat, I would estimate those costs to be in the $225K to $250K area. So now the insurance will see this as pushing or exceeding the 50% of fair market value of around $500K, and it could be a total. It now becomes a candidate for a salvager and turn-around house boat builder like Last Chance Houseboats, in Page out at 530 Haul Rd, Page, Az to buy it as salvage from the insurance company and turn it around.
But even if it had not sunk, our 25 year old Sommerset 65 ft. compared to this Bravado is in much better shape and usability then this boat was. I would not have traded even straight across.
 
Just curious, but has the sunken boat been removed yet?

If the answer is "Yes", is there any obvious sign of what caused it to sink?

When "Knockers" went down, wasn't it attributed to water entering the engine compartment through the vents? Is it possible this was a contributing factor in this case?
 
Hydrotherapy said:
Go on line to: Pearl Houseboat for sale to the Pop boat broker for sale site. Take a look at the video tour and photos of this boat, The Pearl, for sale info. These are recent videos and photos done probably between Feb and April 2024 in the Page boat yard that takes care of our boat. I know the video and photo's are recent because the video includes shots of our boat in this yard at the same time and I know when ours was there. The images and sales presentation is terrible! The boat is a mess with interior water damage on walls; dirty, removed or missing appliances; etc. For a 5 year old boat it is in horrible shape.
I perceive the owner as one that: A) has poor pride of ownership and care of this boat, and B) was trying to dump it ASAP, as evidenced by the 2 or 3 drops in listed price over the past few months. In the sales listing it states: "Reason for selling is "Life Changes. Baby". Why did it sink????

Before this sinking incident it was listed for $749,000. From the information on POP Boat Trader link above: 1) it is underpowered, propelled with the Merc 4.3 V6 and smaller single prop Merc outdrive. 2) There is no generator or invertor to run the refers and freezers as a minimum listed in the boats electrical equipment. 3) Before the sinking, I would estimate it would take $50K to renovate, refit, and get the boat up to a reasonable, usable condition and standard. Then given it's apparent "colorful and troubling" issues since its launch, plus all of the many other issues, I think a Marine Inspector would put this boats fair market value at around $500K - maybe??

Now with the cost to recover the boat and then replace, repair, and refit from all of the water damage to the mechanical and as well as 'house' side of this boat, I would estimate those costs to be in the $225K to $250K area. So now the insurance will see this as pushing or exceeding the 50% of fair market value of around $500K, and it could be a total. It now becomes a candidate for a salvager and turn-around house boat builder like Last Chance Houseboats, in Page out at 530 Haul Rd, Page, Az to buy it as salvage from the insurance company and turn it around.
But even if it had not sunk, our 25 year old Sommerset 65 ft. compared to this Bravado is in much better shape and usability then this boat was. I would not have traded even straight across.
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You're making a lot of assumptions. I know the owner. He's a good guy who ordered the Bravada shortly after the new Bravada ownership took over. The boat Bravada delivered to him had a myriad of problems. The electrical was poorly done and the fit and finish awful. The owner paid a significant amount of money to outside contractors to fix up the boat after the fact in an attempt to make it more seaworthy. This includes a full electrical rennovation. The upper deck wasn't finished upon deliver so the owner came up with a design plan and had it built out to the plan. I was on the boat last year and it was much better than when it was delivered. The owner spent a lot of money to make the best of a bad situation with Bravada.

The owner is a very good person and isn't the type to commit insurance fraud. There are a bunch of reasons the boat could have sank. The onshore marina company launched it at night in high winds. It's entirely possible that those who worked on the boat while in dry dock forgot to check over their work prior to launching and forgot to hook up an intake hose or forgot to close a seacock.
 
Ed_on_WD said:
Just curious, but has the sunken boat been removed yet?

If the answer is "Yes", is there any obvious sign of what caused it to sink?

When "Knockers" went down, wasn't it attributed to water entering the engine compartment through the vents? Is it possible this was a contributing factor in this case?
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Yes Knockers was taking on water from the vents in high winds and side waves.

The pearl was not in that scenario. It was windy when they launched it but no waves. I watched them launch it and was out on the water at the same time they were launching it. It wasn’t that bad. I doubt it had anything to do with weather. Sounds like an internal failure of a water system.

Interesting that La Vida took on water yesterday with what sounds like the same cause as Knockers.

Mike
 
I'm in the marina on my old houseboat. The guy that bought it, generously let's me stay on it. I owe him a really nice steak dinner.
Anyway, the word I get on the Pearl is that they had to untie it from the pump out dock and sink it completely so they could get the weight off the lines that hold the docks in place. It is now attached to some kind of flotation system. Big floating boxes that kind of snap together.
So it's still there but completely submerged at this point.
 
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