Hite camping changes

[hook up!!]

I am sure it does I don't know what we could of done with more fish

 

[John P Funk]

Apparently the overnight fee also applies to Farley - and has been listed as such for a while. Never been there along the road into it. Is there some sort of sign/fee collection kiosk along there?

There is a fee station at the bathrooms in Farley. If you camp "over the hill" and nearer the lake it is below the high water line and is dispersed camping with no fee, but you need to have a porta-pottie. In the past 10 years we've seen a ranger twice in probably 30 trips, so it's not well monitored.

 

[Striper Slayer]

For all of you wondering about ramp improvements: NPS has secured funding and begun the process of improvement on the ramp. At first the were going to have the concrete ramp extended, but they are currently working with a Hydrologist to determine if the primative ramp would be more viable. It sounds like that will be what they will do. It will be gravel, but it's a major project and will be loads better. NPS has a company already picked out to do it, and as soon as final plan is made, they are ready to roll. I was told once they are ready, the ramp will be made to usuable year round (extending to the river if need be) and will also be maintained year round.

Maggie, if you make this happen....BLESS YOU!! That is all it would take for me to camp at Hite again. Thank you for all your work!

 

[Cliff]

Rented a houseboat once at Hite A looong time ago

 

[davew]

Maggie-- I have a question --
How are people charged for use of the area? at bull frog, I pay at the entrance station. I assume if I drive into Hite, there is a self pay station that collects my entrance fee. How is the entrance fee collected for the rafters that come in via raft -- at 50 people per boat ( 50x$30 = $1500) that can turn into some real money.
Same question for camping --- I again assume that your company collects the fees for camping. How is that done?

 

[BartsPlace]

I'll wait for the official response from Maggie, but I think there is some confusion with the different fees in this discussion. There are at least three types of fees -

• Glen Canyon NRA Entrance Fee - per vehicle (based on size/axles) - base price $30
• Glen Canyon NRA Camping Fee - sometimes per campsite, sometimes per vehicle - charged on top of entrance fee (Stanton, for example) - based on location - $12 to $15 per night
• Concessionaire Camping Fee - usually per site - these are improved campsites managed by Aramark, Ticaboo, etc - price varies based on amenities/location - charged on top of entrance fee

Sometimes we mistakenly use these different fees in a conversation interchangeably, but they are distinct.

 

[TheMarinator]

Yikes ! I havent logged in for a while , but this thread just scared me a little . I have always been in the "careful what you wish for" camp when it came to Hite .

So to clarify , when it comes to the old primitive camping sites (south of main and primative ramp) are you saying that there is no more camping down there?

 

[bobco]

That's is what it sounds like
All glamping at Hite will now be in established camp sites.

 

[Skip]

If the service, attitude, etc. at Hite is the same as Offshore and Ticaboo count me out, I have used Hite many times in the past but with the deplorable service we get at Offshore I will not do so again. The people that bought out Offshore from Harold Bertola haven't even come close to providing the service we received when Harold and Karen still had it.

 

[Pegasus]

You north-end fisherman are a funny group. For years on this website I've read, from many of you, about how you miss Hite and would love to go back there someday, how you loved the store being open but they didn't have much of anything, and if 'they' would only extend the boat ramp, life would be good again - I could go on.

An entrepreneur listened, and took a chance on making Hite, again, a usable destination, with the help and support of their own funds and those of NPS. And for that........ you all crap all over them.

Shame on you.

I don't know the new proprietors of Hite, but I thank them for taking a chance to make it work as a campground, launch/retrieve ramp, and ATV/bike destination. I sure hope it works out for them in the long run. But if it doesn't, we'll know, at least partly, who's to blame. -Doug

 

[bobco]

You north-end fisherman are a funny group. For years on this website I've read, from many of you, about how you miss Hite and would love to go back there someday, how you loved the store being open but they didn't have much of anything, and if 'they' would only extend the boat ramp, life would be good again - I could go on.

An entrepreneur listened, and took a chance on making Hite, again, a usable destination, with the help and support of their own funds and those of NPS. And for that........ you all crap all over them.

Shame on you.

I don't know the new proprietors of Hite, but I thank them for taking a chance to make it work as a campground, launch/retrieve ramp, and ATV/bike destination. I sure hope it works out for them in the long run. But if it doesn't, we'll know, at least partly, who's to blame. -Doug

Sorry sir but they did nothing for the boaters, their business plan is for onshore adventures. Nothing has been done for ramp or launch improvements, there is talk but... All I see is a concessioner coming in and trying to make money off a certain business plan, good for them. No need to tax the fisherman that receive zero benefit from their investments. From what I understand if ramp launch area is improved it will be NPS money not concessioner dollars. Proud to be a Northerner! Bob

 

[TheMarinator]

Im not dumping on anybody. I haven't been down there since this past fall so this thread is all that I am going on. Thats why I was getting clarification, I have plans to go down in October.

But Bob is absolutely correct if that area is indeed closed to camping that is a brutal blow to North end fishermen.

 

[KYKevin]

Bobco, you are positively correct, and all us funny Northern people want, is improvement for fishing. And most people that have been on here for year's, have learned to keep there comment's, either to there self, or to one person, not the whole North or South end. And Bobco is correct, and I know his frustration, we all got excited, thinking we were going to get an extended ramp, a fish cleaning station, that actually work's, and that's not to much to ask for the money, most of us has spent over the year's, and will continue to spend.

 

[Skip]

Bob and KYKevin are exactly right. This is for an offshore concession and nothing to do with fishing, I wish them all the luck in the world. BUT if they run Hite like they run Offshore and Ticaboo then it will flop.
Pegasus, I have personally had two (2) houseboat totally screwed up by Offshore by delays, inferior workmanship and promises never kept. Those of us at the north end want nothing but what we pay for. Your comment about not knowing the proprietors qualifies your comment perfectly, walk in our shoes then maybe you can see what we have dealt with. We only expect someone to keep their word.

 

[Not Yet You Bet]

I think it is great that someone has taken on improving Hite. I only wish that all the sites had power. Power is more important to me than water. Is the power provided by local generator or are their power lines into Hite? Just wondering if the amount of power available at Hite is limited or not.

I know a few years ago they were hauling all the water in, have they fixed the water treatment now so they don't have to haul water in? If they now have plenty of water then I don't see any reason not to get the fish cleaning station up and running.

We need to have a lot of people call in and ask when the fish cleaning station will be up and running at Hite.

Is the NPS making all the calls, or are they having any public meeting to get input as to what people want? I have not heard of anywhere to give input, except here on WW.

I would like to ask why they can not or will not fix the road at Farley's. While they have equipment fixing the Hite ramp and if they are going to maintain it year round, then why can't they do a little repair and maintenance at Farley's at the same time? Are they only interested in the rafters?

Why don't the fishermen get the same treatment. Maybe we need a louder voice. I don't like that, but it seems that is how the system works.

 

[Ryan]

I wonder how many of the rafters even pay the fees that are associated with the lake. I guess some of them might have a National Parks pass, but I wonder how many have a boat permit?