Dinosaur Tracks on ceiling?

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birdsnest said:
This is the first I have heard of this graffiti woman. What a diverse site this is! I have seen more that one desecrated pictogragh/petroglyph and my punishment would probably way outweigh the crime but these people are disgusting, right up there with the dog and cat poisoners.
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She was all over the news at the time, very proud of her little destruction of public lands journey. She was finally arrested, never heard if she was punished - too many are not, which harms all of us who mean no harm and live by the leave no footprints creed.
 
Waterbaby said:
She was all over the news at the time, very proud of her little destruction of public lands journey. She was finally arrested, never heard if she was punished - too many are not, which harms all of us who mean no harm and live by the leave no footprints creed.
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It was in our local paper a couple weeks ago......

$175 fine and 210 hours of community service!!!!

Unbelievable to me that's all she got!
 
I think I'm still on topic if I was to ask. What if one were to remove a piece of petrified wood the size of your fist, while just exposed at
water level 3593'?
 
What would happen depends upon whether or not you post on a wildly successful Internet forum about Lake Powell after having removed said piece of petrified rock :-)
 
Docker said:
I just saw the Tapestry Wall ones a few days ago. There is a probably 50 foot section that appears to have dropped out from underneath many years ago and you can see numerous 3 toed prints along it. Anytime I head North from Bullfrog and go that far I always take whoever is with me by them. It is a site to see and a very strange process how it happens. Rather than viewing the indentation of the print you are viewing a 3D protrusion of the print. Pretty neat.

There is also some pretty nice prints around the mouth of Iceberg Canyon across from the big wall. Pretty easy to find if you've ever seen DreamWeaver's picture.

I think I may have found one on a shelf on the island across from Explorer Canyon once too, but I'm not expert and I couldn't tell for sure.
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As for disclosure, the Park Rangers at Rainbow Bridge told me about the dino tracks at tapestry.
 
Jimbo said:
I think I'm still on topic if I was to ask. What if one were to remove a piece of petrified wood the size of your fist, while just exposed at
water level 3593'?
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Excerpts from:
‘‘Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009’’
SEC. 6301. DEFINITIONS.
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In this subtitle:
(1) CASUAL COLLECTING.—The term ‘‘casual collecting’’
means the collecting of a reasonable amount of common invertebrate
and plant paleontological resources for non-commercial
personal use, either by surface collection or the use of nonpowered
hand tools resulting in only negligible disturbance
to the Earth’s surface and other resources. As used in this
paragraph, the terms ‘‘reasonable amount’’, ‘‘common invertebrate
and plant paleontological resources’’ and ‘‘negligible
disturbance’’ shall be determined by the Secretary.

(2) FEDERAL LAND.—The term ‘‘Federal land’’ means—
(A) land controlled or administered by the Secretary
of the Interior, except Indian land; or
(B) National Forest System land controlled or administered
by the Secretary of Agriculture.


SEC. 6304. COLLECTION OF PALEONTOLOGICAL RESOURCES.


(a) PERMIT REQUIREMENT.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in this subtitle, a
paleontological resource may not be collected from Federal land
without a permit issued under this subtitle by the Secretary.

(2) CASUAL COLLECTING EXCEPTION.—The Secretary shall
allow casual collecting without a permit on Federal land controlled
or administered by the Bureau of Land Management,
the Bureau of Reclamation, and the Forest Service, where
such collection is consistent with the laws governing the
management of those Federal land and this subtitle.
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IMHO, Sounds like you're fine unless some specific prohibition is made such as in Petrified Forest which if allowed there would soon become the Petrified Forest Bare Land National Park.

Goblin







 
I was thinking it was something like what's posted above. Beach combing and collecting rocks below full pool was not prohibited.
But disturbing artifacts or ruins at any water level was prohibited. But if 'a person' broadcast anything in this day and age, their on their own.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/artifact
 
I know of folks who collected big petrified wood chunks in the late 60's down at Lake Powell knowing the water would soon drown them, and the Park Ranger at Bullfrog even helped unload them from boat to car.
 
VanillaIceCream said:
I know of folks who collected big petrified wood chunks in the late 60's down at Lake Powell knowing the water would soon drown them, and the Park Ranger at Bullfrog even helped unload them from boat to car.
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At one time it was all over the place and you had to be blind to miss it all over the lake.
 
VanillaIceCream said:
I know of folks who collected big petrified wood chunks in the late 60's down at Lake Powell knowing the water would soon drown them, and the Park Ranger at Bullfrog even helped unload them from boat to car.
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Ah, the late sixties. Back when the police might escort you home so you don't hurt someone cause you're drunk and warnings were the rule of the day. That Park Ranger at bullfrog would have been one of those guys. No more.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Hi Goblin,
There was an extensive thread about Dino track site disclosure a number of years ago on the old site. As I recall, Jim Kirkland , the Utah State Paleontologist, entered the discussion and brought up the 2009 act. The impression I got at that time was site disclosure was prohibited under the act period. However a closer reading of the act, as you point out,
does not seem to apply to individuals. That old thread was very interesting as it brought out a lot of different views about protection of resources from theft and vandalism verses the public' s right to know about locations of sensitive resources on public lands. Rest easy, It seems that there is a low probability that a swat team will be breaking down your door at 4:00am tomorrow morning for that Rainbow Bridge disclosure
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Hi Dreamweaver, Your "Lost Tracks" poster is on my living room wall next to "Tranquility". Do I need to hide it??? Since we can't do the Lake anymore, they are my daily dose of Powell.
 
Dale said:
Hi Dreamweaver, Your "Lost Tracks" poster is on my living room wall next to "Tranquility". Do I need to hide it??? Since we can't do the Lake anymore, they are my daily dose of Powell.
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Hi Dale,
Not to worry. It clearly states on the poster that those are "Lost Tracks".
Glad you enjoy the images.
DW
 
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