Where does this all end up.

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airford1 said:
I guess I had it all wrong. I am aware that the Colorado river system water is used by Utah, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and California. California has grown from 20 million in 1970 to 40 million today and the other states have more than doubled in the same time. The Agriculture in the region has exploded too.Yes I have seen the LA river and Rio Hondo river flowing near the top, but only TWICE in my 65 years, but I do know there was a 3rd time in the 60's. The Voter in California just passed a bond measure to "INSURE THE FURTURE WATER" for California, but they didn't state HOW they were going to INSURE the water supply. I guess they are going to fast track the building of the Dams to solve the problem. Ya we got plenty of water to support the region, my Bad.
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The point is that California 'leaders' did not plan for the future like other states did and still seem have the same 'head in sand' mentality now. The SRP in AZ was way ahead the game when it came to this FORESEEABLE situation.
 
airford1 said:
I leave Monday and on the Lake tuesday thru friday. South end. Pitching a tent maybe warm creek or Dry Rock.
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I would highly recommend RC over WC this time of year. More protection and shade plus much better fishing. We will be there for 8 days later this month. Hope you have a great trip.
 
SEALEGS said:
https://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/how-earths-orbital-shift-shaped-the-sahara/amp/
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Good article. Would be nice if they didn't try to blame global climate change for everything. I kept asking myself as I read how they could blame it on man 300 years ago. We do know there has been shifts in our planet - I've read some stories that believe this had to do with the abrupt loss of the dinosaurs [believed to be caused by a meteor strike in the Yucatan. We do know the planet has been warming since the last mini-ice age. Which makes sense. Reading how people were affected by the mini ice-age after having been in a warm period [like today] I will take the warm myself.

If you've been to the LA County Fair - up in the arboretum is [or was] a cutting of a very old redwood tree - it's a fascinating study - they have it marked by year - you see the last very long drought clearly in the rings. In the book Cadillac Desert it starts out describing the drought in the 70's and how it was so bad they thought perhaps Easterners would pack up and move back east - then the rains of the early 80's came and broke the drought.
 
Waterbaby said:
Good article. Would be nice if they didn't try to blame global climate change for everything. I kept asking myself as I read how they could blame it on man 300 years ago. We do know there has been shifts in our planet - I've read some stories that believe this had to do with the abrupt loss of the dinosaurs [believed to be caused by a meteor strike in the Yucatan. We do know the planet has been warming since the last mini-ice age. Which makes sense. Reading how people were affected by the mini ice-age after having been in a warm period [like today] I will take the warm myself.

If you've been to the LA County Fair - up in the arboretum is [or was] a cutting of a very old redwood tree - it's a fascinating study - they have it marked by year - you see the last very long drought clearly in the rings. In the book Cadillac Desert it starts out describing the drought in the 70's and how it was so bad they thought perhaps Easterners would pack up and move back east - then the rains of the early 80's came and broke the drought.
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Got too love history. It was 'Global Cooling' back then. We were on the verge of the next ice age.😉
 
Just an observation I made when I was on Lake Mead last week - In the past we have launched at South Cove on the eastern end of the Lake. I loved camping on the north side of Sandy Point. There was a great view of Iceberg Canyon, and you could boat north, then east to Pierce Ferry. On a good water year you could go up 10 miles in the Grand Canyon to the Separation Rapids. It was a majestic day of boating. When I was there last week there was no water access to the north side of Sandy Point. The berm pretty much stretches from the point of Sandy Point across the bay. If they ever have an amazing year of rain the Park Service will have to clean up large amounts of debris that have been deposited up there. The change in Lake level up there is obvious.
 
Dave, I really don't know you except from your first posts and assume you are trying to make a living near or in Hanksville. I think you took my initial post in this thread wrong.. I meant the loudest voices seeming to get the attention in the news, are the voices of the drainers, whom I consider to be a waste of oxygen... If Powell would actually get drained, almost all of downstream would dry up and blow away... The only virtue of that, as I see it would we could probably get back to a sane Commiefornia… Anyway , I give you the benefit of the doubt, and I hope it was a smart move to there...
 
Cliff said:
Electric cars? The horsepower has to come from somewhere! Dinosaur burning power plants maybe?
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This is very true. Now to further exacerbate the situation, remember the Second Law of Thermodynamics which basically states that "things go from bad to worse and they only go in one direction."

FWIW
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