Tips and gear for 1st trip

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I usually find a sheltered canyon and fish when the main lake whips up but I do try to be back at camp for a big afternoon or evening blow. I personally use a sandstake for the bow and then a sandstake from either stern line at a minimum 45 degree angle. Or I use big boulders. Three point or the boat can turn sideways and wash up on the beach, even if you think you are really protected from the wind, it finds a way to mess with you, seemingly changing direction at whim. It is the first thing I do when I hit camp, make sure I have anchorage I feel comfortable with. It is hard to get that done with the wind blowing 30...or 40..or 50 lol.
Great info, again. I’ll look into getting at least two stakes for the powerboat, and definitely some extra rope for anchoring two stern lines. I’m pretty sure the rental powerboats only come with a single bow line, and they just expect you to tie it to a rock or tree on shore. Not gonna be good enough. Anyone use these spikes?

How long are you leaving stern lines, usually? Gonna need to buy some rope.
 
Also, as a follow up to my question about a temporary mount for my transducer on the rental powerboat, I’m planning to make something out of PVC that I can lower back over the transom. Just hang it down while I’m fishing. I’ve googled the heck out of it, but can’t seem to find any specifics. Anyone have ideas?
 
I don’t want to steer you wrong with the houseboat rental cooler situation but I BELIEVE the ones I’ve rented have a big white igloo cooler in the front of it as well as a fridge in the kitchen are and a small freezer up top. Don’t quote me on the freezer part.
 
Great info, again. I’ll look into getting at least two stakes for the powerboat, and definitely some extra rope for anchoring two stern lines. I’m pretty sure the rental powerboats only come with a single bow line, and they just expect you to tie it to a rock or tree on shore. Not gonna be good enough. Anyone use these spikes?

How long are you leaving stern lines, usually? Gonna need to buy some rope.
That one looks nicer than mine, see below. I use a rubber mallet. Length depends on where you are at but there are times I will need 50 ft. My boat is 20 ft. I do like to use big boulders so I tend to carry two 100ft anchor lines extra and use them when needed.


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My first choice for mooring my boat to the shore is also to tie off to big rocks or tamarisk trees. If none are available, and sand is the only alternative, I will use steel stakes as anchors driven into the sand. Ignore advice to carry a impact driver and drill holes into sandstone for your stakes or an eyelet. Run a line off each side of the stern @45° or > and one line staked in a V shape from the bow to the shore to prevent the bow from moving side to side. Be aware that this lake gets some serious blows that can have you sideways on a beach in no time or have your bow driven up on the shore. Also, visit to the water database page to get an idea if the lake level is rising or falling and plan accordingly when you moor. I’ll link to items I’ve used successfully on Powell for 25 yrs that can be purchased for about the cost of one of the fancy eyelet stakes (it is a great looking stake until you add up the cost for 4-6 of them). You’re going to be coming back again and again like most of the addicts here, so go to the yachting aisle of Home Depot or Lowes and pick up a 300’ spool of 3/8”, three strand nylon “rope” (of course remember if your within earshot of any nautical types, the “rope” becomes a “line” the moment it’s attached to a boat 😎😬) and make yourself three 100’ lines. It’s very easy with 3 strand nylon to weave a nice eyelet in one end and slip a nice section of 1” heat shrink over the other end, then shrink it and melt the stub to prevent un raveling. For dock lines, you can buy two 15‘ 1/2“ braided lines at Wally World with eyelet already woven for so little that it’s not worth making your own. Here’s a link to the example for the spool of rope. Click away...I have no affiliate deal going with Lowes. HD has about the same stuff.


Next you need stakes. Steel rebar pins are sharp, durable and inexpensive and work well. Buy at least 4. For a 20’ craft, the 2 footers in this link should work, but if you want to go big, they also are available in 3’. I carry a fiberglass handled, small, steel 4-5# sledge hammer ~20 bucks to set the stakes. Here is a link. This material and advice is for your small craft. Search the site for all the suggestions for mooring your houseboat.


Be safe. Have a great trip and enjoy! You’re drinking from a firehouse learning this lake’s do’s and don’ts.
 
My first choice for mooring my boat to the shore is also to tie off to big rocks or tamarisk trees. If none are available, and sand is the only alternative, I will use steel stakes as anchors driven into the sand. Ignore advice to carry a impact driver and drill holes into sandstone for your stakes or an eyelet. Run a line off each side of the stern @45° or > and one line staked in a V shape from the bow to the shore to prevent the bow from moving side to side. Be aware that this lake gets some serious blows that can have you sideways on a beach in no time or have your bow driven up on the shore. Also, visit to the water database page to get an idea if the lake level is rising or falling and plan accordingly when you moor. I’ll link to items I’ve used successfully on Powell for 25 yrs that can be purchased for about the cost of one of the fancy eyelet stakes (it is a great looking stake until you add up the cost for 4-6 of them). You’re going to be coming back again and again like most of the addicts here, so go to the yachting aisle of Home Depot or Lowes and pick up a 300’ spool of 3/8”, three strand nylon “rope” (of course remember if your within earshot of any nautical types, the “rope” becomes a “line” the moment it’s attached to a boat 😎😬) and make yourself three 100’ lines. It’s very easy with 3 strand nylon to weave a nice eyelet in one end and slip a nice section of 1” heat shrink over the other end, then shrink it and melt the stub to prevent un raveling. For dock lines, you can buy two 15‘ 1/2“ braided lines at Wally World with eyelet already woven for so little that it’s not worth making your own. Here’s a link to the example for the spool of rope. Click away...I have no affiliate deal going with Lowes. HD has about the same stuff.


Next you need stakes. Steel rebar pins are sharp, durable and inexpensive and work well. Buy at least 4. For a 20’ craft, the 2 footers in this link should work, but if you want to go big, they also are available in 3’. I carry a fiberglass handled, small, steel 4-5# sledge hammer ~20 bucks to set the stakes. Here is a link. This material and advice is for your small craft. Search the site for all the suggestions for mooring your houseboat.


Be safe. Have a great trip and enjoy! You’re drinking from a firehouse learning this lake’s do’s and don’ts.
Thank you very much, Skibum! That’s some great advice on the lines. Sounds like you can’t have too many lines and stakes available! I’ll look into those.

So I’m thinkining a minimum of a bow line and two 45 degree stern lines for mooring the 19’ powerboat. How far up to the shore should I keep the bow for mooring? And how do you prevent wind from pushing it too far up on shore? Just curious if I’m missing something for the best way to do it! Thanks again, and yes, I’m sure I’ll be coming back again and again. It’ll be great getting all of these tips and tricks under my belt. I’d rather learn BEFORE the first time we’re out there.
 
Thank you very much, Skibum! That’s some great advice on the lines. Sounds like you can’t have too many lines and stakes available! I’ll look into those.

So I’m thinkining a minimum of a bow line and two 45 degree stern lines for mooring the 19’ powerboat. How far up to the shore should I keep the bow for mooring? And how do you prevent wind from pushing it too far up on shore? Just curious if I’m missing something for the best way to do it! Thanks again, and yes, I’m sure I’ll be coming back again and again. It’ll be great getting all of these tips and tricks under my belt. I’d rather learn BEFORE the first time we’re out there.
in school they teach you a lesson, and then give you a test. Lake Powell gives you the test, and then you learn the lesson
 
I defer to Birdsnest, because of his extensive experience, but I can tell you first hand that the weather on Lake Powell can change in literally one minute from dead calm to 55 mph winds that can change your great experience to a nightmare to a near death experience. This has happened to me several times, so NEVER underestimate what Lake Powell can deliver. I would never run boats at high speed on Lake Powell without detailed mapping capability from Lake Master or Navionics; what you don't know can really hurt you on Lake Powell. I'm not being negative; Lake Powell is a wonderous place, but it can can be extremely dangerous too...don't ever take it for granted.
 
So I’m thinkining a minimum of a bow line and two 45 degree stern lines for mooring the 19’ powerboat. How far up to the shore should I keep the bow for mooring? And how do you prevent wind from pushing it too far up on shore? Just curious if I’m missing something for the best way to do it! Thanks again, and yes, I’m sure I’ll be coming back again and again. It’ll be great getting all of these tips and tricks under my belt. I’d rather learn BEFORE the first time we’re out there.
The short answer...don’t worry about it.

The long answer...

With your 19 footer‘s low freeboard, there’s not much worry of being beached on a steep enough beach. My “test“ was 20 years ago with a heavy 30’ cruiser. Impending darkness, scarcity of suitable campsites and three dogs aboard led to being moored on a beach with too shallow of a slope. Heavy overnight winds/waves on the stern left us stuck tight in the morning. The “lesson learned” for my boating setup? It’s a pain, but with only shallow sloped beaches abailable for a campsite, I now anchor out in open water and use the SeaDoo to ferry the dogs to shore for nature’s call. In May, unless you’re talking Mem Day here, you’ll have ample good beaches to choose from. If it’s crowded and you see an apparent ”perfect spot” someone has overlooked, check it out for slope before you beach. Probably more of an issue in May is the need to daily tighten your lines as, hopefully, the water level will be rising.

Unfortunately, Treetop’s statement re “the test coming before learning the lesson”.....too often is true. (The corresponding saying in aviation circles is similar.... “Experience is a great teacher!....Unfortunately, it kills a few students...”) The bright side, if there is one? The lessons learned the hard way, assuming you survived and the only pain is to your ego and wallet, remain more deeply ingrained in your brain than the knowledge gained from just reading a caveat. Having said that, I think a sticky thread here titled “I learned from that“ or probably more appropriately, “never again” , would not only be good for a few grins and groans, but hopefully also beneficial for anyone seeking to acquire less painful Lake Powell wisdom. I know it would have been helpful for me when I started out. I now hate to admit my Powell inauguration. I set out 25 yrs ago with my wife, three kids and a dog to explore Powell. I had little/no boating experience, bought a used 27’ cruiser, had a fresh completion certificate from the USCG boating course, a Stan Jones “boating Lake Powell map“ along with a Garmin portable aviation GPS that had marine software and would accept a high definition Lake Powell card, some advice from a couple friends and blind courage. In retrospect, judged by lack knowledge so easily accessed today, crazy. The GPS only had full pool resolution, but for 1995, that was close enough....not true today. My knowledge of anything Wayne related in those days came from glancing at the daily copy of the Fishing Report posted on the bulletin board at the DR ranger station when we went for gas, ice and the famous Dangling Rope ice cream Cone ($1.00 back then...and better ice cream) The internet knowledge base was still in it‘s infancy. When I did find the precursor to this website, it was mostly lurk and learn from the old salts who had known the lake from the completion of the dam and had much entertaining advice to share.

Needless to say, I have had a few “never agains” etched into my brain over the years. I would suggest searching the recreation side of the board also for more tips on safely boating this lake. There are pages of info. One of the biggest dangers is just below, or barely above, the surface. Over the years I’ve learned to avoid most of these lurking obstacles, but still plan to add one of the apps (Navionics) to my phone and iPad that allow for water level adjustment to see near current lake shoreline and hazards. Large wide open bays can harbor the tips solid rock pinnacles waiting to test your fiberglass....so far from shore you would never expect it. They are commonly called whales on this site. Safest travel, especially with any speed, is with the sun high in the sky, polarized glasses on, and all eyes on the lookout for the greenish yellow water that marks these underwater rocks. Use extreme caution when cutting sharp bends. When I was camped years ago in Reflection Canyon, I found a 42 ft cruiser resting 100% out of the water on rocks that were jutting way out from a sharp bend. The driver was physically unharmed, only ego bruised when we offered help. Follow the ATONs which are only found in the main channel. (historically in recent years these are not well maintained.) In the side canyons/bays there are no official markings. If you see a floating gallon milk jug, be careful if you think you’ll pick up a piece of floating trash...it has usually been placed by another boater to mark a hidden hazard.
These bits of advice could go on and on, so I’ll spare you. Search is your friend and I’m sure the list of caveats will grow here.
 
Anyone boating on lake powell without navionics or lake master with water level offset not correctly dialed in is just asking for some serious trouble!
I agree 1000%. Even though I have Navionics, twice last summer, I came within a about a foot of destroying my boat. Once almost running aground on top of a spire hundreds of feet from shore and once when a point was still under about a foot of water several hundred feet from shore directly across from Wahweap Marina. I got lucky both times and missed hitting anything. Very lucky. Neither were marked until a few days later.
Last summer was my first time to Powell. I spent most of the latter half of summer there and fell in love with the place but it can be treacherous to navigate for the novice and experienced boater alike.
I don't leave the dock without my Navionics up and running.
 
Couple simple suggestions that have probably already been mentioned 🤣

Navionics for your phone or tablet. Cheap and easy. Just download the maps before you go when you have a cell signal.

Always stay in the river channel when running at speed, until you have the routes marked and are sure of your route. It is super easy to get complacent, shallow areas and whales in completely unexpected areas are all over the lake!!!
 
Anyone boating on lake powell without navionics or lake master with water level offset not correctly dialed in is just asking for some serious trouble!
Great point! And I’ve seen many people mention the same thing. I have Navionics+ on my phone, and I always download the map of lakes I’m visiting. I’m definitely planning to use it in May.

Question: where do you find updated Powell water levels to adjust the Navionics water level settings? Is there a website you prefer to use?
 
Ice is one of the biggest problems to overcome at Lake Powell. Whether houseboating, or camping because typically the temps range from 80's - 105. In May and June usually you can count on 80-95. It is surprising just how much ice you will go thru in that heat. I have learned to buy and store as many blocks as I can fit in my ice chests, on the way down, (in my case Blanding, Ut.) . The blocks cost around $2.50 ea , compared to $7, at the lake! We even bought a propane powered freezer for the houseboat, and load it with blocks hauled down from Blanding. We have found that we go through about 2 blocks a day for 4 people on the houseboat. Ice chest management is very important and something we all learned to do. Just saying?
 
There's a link to the Lake Powell water database on the homepage of this site.

Excellent, Bart — thank you for the info. So...as a novice... how do I use that to adjust the Navionics map, so I don’t hit a whale? :unsure:

Sorry for the basic question, but I’m new to this. The website says “Lake Powell is down -31.24 feet from one year ago. Lake Powell is at low for water year and down 24.17 feet from the high.”

So would I adjust the Navionics water level down 24.17 feet?
 
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