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Something happened on water allocation.

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Pegasus

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The article does make it sound like an earth-shattering agreement was made between the upper and lower basin states, but then says nothing about what the agreement is. I would think this would be evening newsworthy for all the states involved. I look forward to hearing what the proposal states........
 

Pegasus

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Question - if it's true that CA has been using more than their allotment of water from the CO river (as I've heard for years but don't know if factually true), who is allowing this? In other words, who is letting the water out of the dams in excess of their allotment? Who is approving this extra water release to CA?

It seems the concern of the upper basin states, rightly so, is that if they hold excess water in LP, someone else may decide to use it without obtaining approval/permission.
 

BartsPlace

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In other words, who is letting the water out of the dams in excess of their allotment?

We just started a new water year (October 1st). My understanding is that this will count towards the downstream release allotment.
 

Pegasus

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We just started a new water year (October 1st). My understanding is that this will count towards the downstream release allotment.
Sorry, BartsPlace, I wasn't clear in my question. My question was referring to the article link above from Zach regarding how the upper basin states have come to a tentative agreement for managing the CO river water, but want to ensure that if they 'stored' excess water in LP, it would be there when they wanted it and not used by other states without approval.

So my question was asking, if CA is taking more CO water than their allotment, who is letting them, i.e. who is opening the dams and letting the water out so they can have more than their allotment?
 

BartsPlace

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No worries. I'm not really qualified to answer your question either way. I was just adding some context.
 

Waterbaby

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California uses it's allocation. For a while when there was too much water in the Colorado more was released to California from Lake Mead - this was pre-drought. California and Colorado receive an equal allocation, the balance is distributed between the other States with Nevada getting the least amount of allocation. They've resolved some of this by cleaning hotel water and putting it back into Lake Mead so they get a in and out count [so to speak]. Things worked pretty well til the drought - and don't forget the population has shifted - as millions move out of California to Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. the population in California keeps increasing .... may soon increase a LOT more... When we have a flush - that isn't extra water going downstream.

What it really is - is water being sent around the energy-producing turbines of Glen Canyon Dam. This results in smaller releases during the rest of the water year.

A lot of people get confused because we have two separate water years. Glen Canyon water year ends September 30th, Lake Mead doesn't end until December 31st. So you cannot look at them as apples and apples when looking at current data.

Lake Mead is in trouble for many reasons - not the least of which is the drought. The runoff into Mead from the Virgin and other rivers has been down significantly.

People need to remember not all water into Lake Powell comes from the Colorado River - people who say California is stealing our water never take into consideration we have rivers below the Glen Canyon dam feeding into the Colorado below Glen Canyon and into Lake Mead and we have rivers feeding into Lake Mead..

They also ignore in addition to the water sent to Arizona, Nevada and California from Mead we are obligated by international treaty to send 1.5 to Mexico. We've been able to hold some back from Mexico for a variety of reasons, but if they put a call on their water owed we have to send it to them.
 

Squirrel

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Would this give Mexico "CREDITS" for the water that has been held back over the years? Could they demand 3.0 or the balance held back? Sq
 
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