Opinion on “fuel” containers

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This won’t work for everyone, but we have given up on the fuel cans. Just too much work for not a lot of fuel.

We now take 30 or 40 gallon plastic barrels and a 12 GPM fuel transfer pump. They stay on the back of the houseboat on the way out and then when we have an appropriate camp site they are moved to shore.

We go through a ton of fuel on our summer trips and bring an extra 250-300 gallons.

The barrels are filled at Ticaboo with premium fuel which isn’t even available on water anymore.

It’s a bit more up front expense this way but we literally have saved thousands of dollars and have better fuel.
How do you move the 30- and 40-gallon containers? I have 2) 15-gallon containers that I take for fuel for my fishing boat when going on week-long fishing trips. One has wheels and one is tubular like an air tank. They are handy to have but almost not doable for me to take out of the back of my truck and lift into the back of my boat. I fill mine in G J or Delta at City market and use my fuel points to get a dollar off the first 35 gallons. Big savings, not convenient. I bought 4 of the above-mentioned containers that say right on them that they are not for fuel. I bought these after borrowing my sons for a couple trips. He had green ones I bought white ones simply because of the sun heating and expanding the container and spilling fuel. The size was nice, they were easy to carry and hold to dispense the fuel. I was going to buy four more. Three of the four of them started leaking in the third year and ruined the carpet on the back of the houseboat. Could not figure out where they when leaking. Filled them with water and left them in the shop overnight. They were leaking through small cracks that you could not see in the bottom. The green ones my son had are still fine and are fifteen years old. I have a friend who uses 8-gallon barrels that antifreeze fluid that is used for in-floor heating comes in. They would be the perfect size for me. The are the same shape as a larger barrel, they would stand and store easily on the house boat. I have not been able to locate them anywhere.
 
How do you move the 30- and 40-gallon containers? I have 2) 15-gallon containers that I take for fuel for my fishing boat when going on week-long fishing trips. One has wheels and one is tubular like an air tank. They are handy to have but almost not doable for me to take out of the back of my truck and lift into the back of my boat. I fill mine in G J or Delta at City market and use my fuel points to get a dollar off the first 35 gallons. Big savings, not convenient. I bought 4 of the above-mentioned containers that say right on them that they are not for fuel. I bought these after borrowing my sons for a couple trips. He had green ones I bought white ones simply because of the sun heating and expanding the container and spilling fuel. The size was nice, they were easy to carry and hold to dispense the fuel. I was going to buy four more. Three of the four of them started leaking in the third year and ruined the carpet on the back of the houseboat. Could not figure out where they when leaking. Filled them with water and left them in the shop overnight. They were leaking through small cracks that you could not see in the bottom. The green ones my son had are still fine and are fifteen years old. I have a friend who uses 8-gallon barrels that antifreeze fluid that is used for in-floor heating comes in. They would be the perfect size for me. The are the same shape as a larger barrel, they would stand and store easily on the house boat. I have not been able to locate them anywhere.
The weight is the main reason that I said they aren’t for everyone.

This year the barrels were filled at the Maverick in Green River and hauled to the lake (saved even more $ doing it that way).

Two guys can mussel the 30 gallon barrels out of the truck without too much trouble. 40 is harder. 50 isn’t manageable.

Once out of the truck, we use a two wheeler to either roll them to the houseboat in the slip, or to one of the boats on the courtesy dock, and then move them to the sim platforms to shuttle them to the houseboat.

When we need to move them by hand we use furniture moving harnesses. Amazon.com

The barrels we use are repurposed from restaurants that used them for Pepsi syrup. I think a couple held car wash soap. At the is point they are over 10 years old.
 
I may have an unpopular view on this.


Portable Plastic fuel containers should be 100% banned from every marina.


Anyone using these unsafe portable style tanks is putting the safety of the entire marina at risk.


There are only 2 reasons to haul fuel.
1 - you are limited on funds or too cheap to pay the higher price at the floating pumps
2 - your on board fuel tanks are too small for length of stay or distance


The person who is using these dangerous portable fuel cans cannot control the conditions or the environment - the gas hauling dudes are literally pushing a cart full of fuming gas right next to another dude lighting up his cigar.


Note - consider what another member on this site did who purchased a floating beater boat and outfitted it with proper fuel tanks and then added proper fuel transfer pumps and hoses… a tanker.
It's funny how many Karen's go by other names as well......
 
Safely used they work great. A couple of years ago we brought them on a rental houseboat out of Wahweap without any issue. View attachment 30597
Once at our campsite we off load them to shore.

Also for filling generators, recommend this Harbor Freight transfer pump. $10 bucks, two D cell batteries.View attachment 30598
bought something like that at Home Depot about 5 yrs ago. haven't spilled a drop.
 
The weight is the main reason that I said they aren’t for everyone.

This year the barrels were filled at the Maverick in Green River and hauled to the lake (saved even more $ doing it that way).

Two guys can mussel the 30 gallon barrels out of the truck without too much trouble. 40 is harder. 50 isn’t manageable.

Once out of the truck, we use a two wheeler to either roll them to the houseboat in the slip, or to one of the boats on the courtesy dock, and then move them to the sim platforms to shuttle them to the houseboat.

When we need to move them by hand we use furniture moving harnesses. Amazon.com

The barrels we use are repurposed from restaurants that used them for Pepsi syrup. I think a couple held car wash soap. At the is point they are over 10 years old.




I want to see this lol
 
I may have an unpopular view on this.


Portable Plastic fuel containers should be 100% banned from every marina.


Anyone using these unsafe portable style tanks is putting the safety of the entire marina at risk.


There are only 2 reasons to haul fuel.
1 - you are limited on funds or too cheap to pay the higher price at the floating pumps
2 - your on board fuel tanks are too small for length of stay or distance


The person who is using these dangerous portable fuel cans cannot control the conditions or the environment - the gas hauling dudes are literally pushing a cart full of fuming gas right next to another dude lighting up his cigar.


Note - consider what another member on this site did who purchased a floating beater boat and outfitted it with proper fuel tanks and then added proper fuel transfer pumps and hoses… a tanker.
So I think most people fall into your category 2. Not every one sits on their houseboat in a marina, or wants to be close to a gas station!
 
I may have an unpopular view on this.


Portable Plastic fuel containers should be 100% banned from every marina.


Anyone using these unsafe portable style tanks is putting the safety of the entire marina at risk.


There are only 2 reasons to haul fuel.
1 - you are limited on funds or too cheap to pay the higher price at the floating pumps
2 - your on board fuel tanks are too small for length of stay or distance


The person who is using these dangerous portable fuel cans cannot control the conditions or the environment - the gas hauling dudes are literally pushing a cart full of fuming gas right next to another dude lighting up his cigar.


Note - consider what another member on this site did who purchased a floating beater boat and outfitted it with proper fuel tanks and then added proper fuel transfer pumps and hoses… a tanker.
I understand your position, but don't mention outlawing something many others have to do to enjoy their lake Powell experience.
Dealing with extra fuel is a pain in the a**. Having to lift it, haul it store it, dispense it, is all extra work and a safety and environmental hazard. But having discussions about how others do things, helps people with their options.
I took two old 20 gallons air tanks that the compressors had failed on and converted them to portable gas containers. I painted them red (a must if you want them filled at the marina). I bought the proper hoses and valves. Installed a proper vent. I put new wheels on them. Then I struggled with how to get them from the truck to the houseboat. I could not lift them from the truck to the fishing boat on shore to transport them, this is how we move all our other supplies. I was told that I am not allowed to haul them full of fuel down the docks either by rolling them on their wheels or putting them in a cart. Taking the houseboat to the ramp to get fuel did not make sense. So, I now use them at my ranch for fuel there. I can afford to pay the Marinas price for fuel, we own our own houseboat. I am not an Aramark fan, and I don't like padding their bottom line. I don't like paying the 42.9 cent per gallon road tax that is never used on a road. I can fill the tanks in G J for around $3, its $6.60 on the docks. Notice I did not say service station on the water, because there is no convenience or service. Especially off season.
 
I really like these 15 gallon.
They fit in the marina carts and have held up well. Prefer two people to move them

We have some of the 5 gallon too.

We use a super siphon for filling. I can refill skis from the 5 gallons on the beach without losing a drop. If you get the angle just right and have a little height you can suck the jug completely dry!

This is exactly what we do. The flofast jugs are fantastic - very sturdy and don't leak. Definitely easier to move with 2 people. Siphon hose make filling very easy. We have 20 total between us in our group - you can get about 16 gallons per jug so that is an extra 320 gallons we take with us.
 
My 2 cents,

Carrying them on the back of the houseboat, and with pictures now. Just voided any houseboat insurance claim, liability claim, environmental claim and personal liability umbrella claim if at any event can be tied to those barrels.

You’re betting your house and savings on nothing going wrong.

A big bet.
 
Having a battery with clip on connections that may spark sitting right next to a 20 gallon gas can and vapors from the fuel tank opening is a recipe for disaster. That battery should be as far as possible from the gas can and fuel tank opening.
There is a reason the Coast Guard has marine regulations..... and this doesn't make the standard. Just big explosions!
 
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