I ordered my Ranger in ‘16.
Told dealer I wanted a two stroke on it.
He thought I was nuts but I got what I wanted.
LOVE the holeshot on my boat!
New restrictions on wake boats in Wisconsin
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Told dealer I wanted a two stroke on it.
He thought I was nuts but I got what I wanted.
LOVE the holeshot on my boat!
huntingdad
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They would'nt have to go wakeless only. Like Pleasant, there is a no ski area up the Auga Fria arm. If they posted some of the tight canyons, no ski, you could responsibaly egress small canyons and not deal with wake boarders. At least the ones that follow the rules.
Go ‘No Towables’ on back 2/3 of all canyons to keep safety priority and damage to a minimum.
nzaugg
Keeper of San Juan Secrets
I'm unsure of the effectiveness of restrictions. Considering Lost Eden is a wakeless canyon and how many boats were coming in and out on a plane last Saturday, you can restrict forever and make up infinite rules, unless there is enforcement on the lake, you won't see anyone adhere to the requirements.
Joe Wilson
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As much as I hate additional restrictions, I wonder if a mandatory education course would help at all. Something similar to what they did with OHV requirements a couple years ago. I don't know if those have actually made a difference or not but a mandatory course might at least help with the education side of it. I know it won't solve the problem entirely but every little bit helps.
Last I checked, anyone can buy a boat and take it to the lake, no knowledge/experience necessary. I know that some people just simply don't know the rules (some also just plain don't care), so maybe forcing them to take a class explaining the regulations will help.
Last I checked, anyone can buy a boat and take it to the lake, no knowledge/experience necessary. I know that some people just simply don't know the rules (some also just plain don't care), so maybe forcing them to take a class explaining the regulations will help.
Exactly. Coming back to Wahweap from Padre Bay yesterday. Boat passed me in the no wake zone at Antelope. Loaded down with people front to back. Had a 200 horse Honda and couldn't hardly get on plane out of the no wake zone they were so overloaded. I passed him with my little 90 horse Yamaha and got the the dam no wake ahead of him. Barely got to the second turn and he already passed me at quarter throttle. He nailed it full throttle once he passed us and kept it at that the rest of the way through the no wake zone. So I tend to agree with you the about the restrictions.
You know what I find funny about boats?
It is the only machine I know of that you can have 1-2000 (or even more nowadays) hp driving multiple razor sharp blades with a throttle you can set on high and walk away from, and with ZERO education!
My cheap lawnmower and Milwaukee blower even have ‘return-to-stop’ throttles if you take hand off throttle.
And sixteen year old punks are taking daddy’s one ton pulling daddy’s Wakesetter to the lake to show off with a couple other punks.
I support a mandatory (but no cost) certification type class for boat operators if for no other reason than to teach ramp manners (at night PLEASE turn off your headlights pulling trailer up ramp as I’m trying to back in), wakeless zones, and proximity laws.
We pay enough rape , oops I mean registration fees especially in Utah there is zero reason there needs to be ANY fee attached.
The OHV Operators Certification actually makes you more dumb after you take it but it did accomplish what it was meant to do:
The Judge now gives you a ticket for not taking a required test OR you get a ticket for breaking a law you are certified in.
No more “Uh…I didn’t know I couldn’t do that?”.
The exact same would be accomplished with a zero cost Watercraft Operators Certification.
AND everyone on the water must comply, including float tubers and kayakers.
How many times have you been delayed on ramp due to some tubers/boarders/kayakers taking extended launch/retrieve times clogging up bottom of ramp, sometimes even parking sideways at bottom of ramp.
Or worse, tubers/kayakers/boarders out after dark with zero lights on and you nearly run them over.
You should be able to provide rangers with video of the incident. The rangers should then send the owner a ticket and have them to show up in court to respond. The ticket needs to be a substantial fine.
When you consider some people's spend thousands on fuel making waves. Second offense should be loss of use of the boat for a specified time.
Marina Bum
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I read the article, thanks for sharing, I hope those kinds of restrictions catch on here.
Otherwise what a tired topic here, We've been over this quite often and until the situation gets drastic we are not likely to see any restriction. Yes, any restrictions will be hard to enforce but it gives the rest of us something to talk to our fellow good boaters about because right now all you can say is please be courteous. Surfboats are not breaking any laws or regulations at this time unless they cause damage, we need a change.
The State Of Utah's don't move a muscle campaign is full of it too in their neglect to properly police the ballast systems of these boats, they gloss over their inspection to keep the line moving, it's a joke. It's impossible to fully empty those tanks and they are not requiring them to be decontaminated on the ramp. Why do they get a pass heading into Utah? Yet, when they found a dead open empty dried up bleached out shell deep in the bellows of my fuel boat a few years back they wanted to refer me to Antelope for a full "professional decontamination" at my expense. I told them I was from Arizona, not headed to Utah and I refused and put my vessel back on the water until they left for the day and pulled it out then. What a joke!
When GCNRA went after the cash grab with an increased progressive use tax for larger vessels I wrote in during the comment period. One of their excuses to soak the rich was that their Super Sized Houseboats cause larger wakes and increased "erosion" and that the fee increases were needed to address that. ROTFLMAO! Their fees went from $50 for the annual Canyon Pass use fee to in some cases $3,600. Have you ever been on the shoreline when a Surf Boat comes by near the shore throwing their wake wave? It's a small ocean sized wave that actually breaks on the shoreline. Where is their shore line erosion fee?
I'm all for everyone enjoying the lake in the way that they want as long as they are not a nuisance and don't disturb the quiet enjoyment of others. There are lots of ways to be a discourteous and disrespectful of others on the lake, it's not limited to Surfboarts. However, IMO there should be restrictions on Surfing in coves and within a certain distance from the shore. (like the article says is going on in Minnesota) No, there is no one to police it up lake but it's a taking point and most of the surfing goes on closer afield to infrastructure and fuel than far up lake.
Otherwise what a tired topic here, We've been over this quite often and until the situation gets drastic we are not likely to see any restriction. Yes, any restrictions will be hard to enforce but it gives the rest of us something to talk to our fellow good boaters about because right now all you can say is please be courteous. Surfboats are not breaking any laws or regulations at this time unless they cause damage, we need a change.
The State Of Utah's don't move a muscle campaign is full of it too in their neglect to properly police the ballast systems of these boats, they gloss over their inspection to keep the line moving, it's a joke. It's impossible to fully empty those tanks and they are not requiring them to be decontaminated on the ramp. Why do they get a pass heading into Utah? Yet, when they found a dead open empty dried up bleached out shell deep in the bellows of my fuel boat a few years back they wanted to refer me to Antelope for a full "professional decontamination" at my expense. I told them I was from Arizona, not headed to Utah and I refused and put my vessel back on the water until they left for the day and pulled it out then. What a joke!
When GCNRA went after the cash grab with an increased progressive use tax for larger vessels I wrote in during the comment period. One of their excuses to soak the rich was that their Super Sized Houseboats cause larger wakes and increased "erosion" and that the fee increases were needed to address that. ROTFLMAO! Their fees went from $50 for the annual Canyon Pass use fee to in some cases $3,600. Have you ever been on the shoreline when a Surf Boat comes by near the shore throwing their wake wave? It's a small ocean sized wave that actually breaks on the shoreline. Where is their shore line erosion fee?
I'm all for everyone enjoying the lake in the way that they want as long as they are not a nuisance and don't disturb the quiet enjoyment of others. There are lots of ways to be a discourteous and disrespectful of others on the lake, it's not limited to Surfboarts. However, IMO there should be restrictions on Surfing in coves and within a certain distance from the shore. (like the article says is going on in Minnesota) No, there is no one to police it up lake but it's a taking point and most of the surfing goes on closer afield to infrastructure and fuel than far up lake.
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RichieW13
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As of January 1 this year, California (yeah yeah) now requires a boater card.
Joe Wilson
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I believe Missouri has something similar (it could have also just been the insurance requirements for the rental boats) but theirs had an age cutoff (born after 1985 requires a training/license course).
My cousin's husband wanted to rent a pontoon boat but I had to sign the paperwork and captain the boat because he was born after the cutoff date. He also served in the Navy and was way more qualified than I was but none of that mattered because he was born after that date...
Lovefising
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Here is another helpful article! As WI takes to water over Memorial Day, share your view on wake-enhanced boats | Opinion
Lovefising
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Here is another helpful article that just was posted today . As WI takes to water over Memorial Day, share your view on wake-enhanced boats | Opinion
Rainbowbridge
Keeper of San Juan Secrets
When enough people are irritated, hurt, or worse killed, and enough damage is caused, govt steps in & regulations follow in almost every area of our lives....and attorneys salivate...... 
Firearms & automobiles come to mind first.....but you can think of many more.
Can't avoid it. Just a matter of time.
Firearms & automobiles come to mind first.....but you can think of many more.
Can't avoid it. Just a matter of time.
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