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Gem Morris said:
Sorry fat fingers typo - I edited my response
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I will admit that the 50 degree was a ball park figure, you are probably right Gem! Funny thing is that in my favorite lake, it is a run of the river reservoir, and it never stratifies. I catch them in 40 degree water on the surface in spring, and 65+ degree water in middle of the summer, right on the surface. They are big, fat and following the plankton around. Totally goes against all the Kokanee "rules"!!!

OK, enough about Kokanee!!!
 
@Squirrel has one that only does one temp reading and you need to lower it and raise it a few times for different layers but I think he said it was under 20 bucks. Works great in the summer to check out how deep the cooler water is. I keep meaning to get one but haven’t yet.
Great report!
 
The launching at bullfrog is one lane on the boiler plate they installed. The plate is out of the water about two feet up the ramp. A 20 foot boat should be good for launching on the boiler plate. Anything bigger I would think would need to be in farther than the boiler plate and there are some football rocks beyond the plate and mud. I was there on Thursday and this is what I saw. Didn't launch a boat, but just a drive down to see the conditions. They have also taken a dozer and flattened the dike out from the main ramp.
 
Water temperature in Wahweap Bay at the boat ramp was 43 F the last time I took the surface temperature at the end of the dock sticking out from the boiler plate which is now exposed. Boats have to be backed down on the cement and then the boiler plate before the boat can float off the trailer. The current surface temperature will now began to warm up with the days getting longer. Water has to be very shallow in Lake Powell before the ice will begin to form on the surface.
 
Dorado said:
A bit of a digression, but....Water is a super weird molecule.
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i was going to say, but you beat me to it.

weird water is why there is life.


Dorado said:
With pretty much everything else, the colder it is, the more dense it becomes. Water becomes more dense is at cools down to 37 Fahrenheit, but it then becomes less dense as it approaches freezing, and is much less dense as a solid (ice) than a liquid. We take this for granted, but it is actually pretty odd. If it was a more normal molecule, it would sink to the bottom as it cooled, and freeze from the bottom up. The strange characteristics of water allow for stratification, but also the mixing of layers as the water cools and warms (turnover) which mixes nutrients and dissolved oxygen through the water column.
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nature is so cool! (all puns intended! :) )
 
KYKevin said:
There kinda like me then, I would like a constant temp of 60 year round with fish biting 👍
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As for kokanee temps. From what I read 52-54 is always mentioned as the preferred range for them. One observation is many of the studies on that are done in British Columbia and more norther climes. Not sure they have many lakes with kokes that get very warm. I have a fish hawk and it has disproved that preferred temp range very many times for me. I love using it to determine the thermoclines etc. it is the lesser expensive model I got it for about 100 bucks on sale.
It is very Interesting to see how different lakes have dramatically varying thermocline layers. Most of the time at Powell when swimming you can feel warm up top and much cooler just as far down as your feet. In several unamed kokanee Lakes I fish, In July I catch
Lots of kokes (most of them at 15 feet and less) surface temp is 69 degrees! The temp 10 to 20 feet down is still 67 degrees. To find 53 degree temp you have to go down to 50 feet and I find/catch no kokes there (I’ve tried many times and don’t mark them either) one thing many people forget, it is very hard to mark shallow kokes as the cone is very small so very little area coverage and they often spook away from the boat. It is easier to mark fish on finder deeper due to more area covered by transducer and less spooky from
Boat. The Kokanee, fight great and are in great shape and eat very well. I Always put them right in
Cooler with lots of ice. Some days on a cool
Morning it’s strange when they are warmer than the air temperature.
So all I’m saying is don’t always rely on preferred temps or your fish finder only, for kokes especially, but it applies to other fish as well. I love chasing kokanee and I catch many a limit at 20 feet and less in
Much warmer water than you would ever expect.
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit. Fish hawk is a great tool and worth the cost.
Good fishing to all for all species!
Lake Powell soon for me I
Hope!
Mildog out
 
Mildog said:
As for kokanee temps. From what I read 52-54 is always mentioned as the preferred range for them. One observation is many of the studies on that are done in British Columbia and more norther climes. Not sure they have many lakes with kokes that get very warm. I have a fish hawk and it has disproved that preferred temp range very many times for me. I love using it to determine the thermoclines etc. it is the lesser expensive model I got it for about 100 bucks on sale.
It is very Interesting to see how different lakes have dramatically varying thermocline layers. Most of the time at Powell when swimming you can feel warm up top and much cooler just as far down as your feet. In several unamed kokanee Lakes I fish, In July I catch
Lots of kokes (most of them at 15 feet and less) surface temp is 69 degrees! The temp 10 to 20 feet down is still 67 degrees. To find 53 degree temp you have to go down to 50 feet and I find/catch no kokes there (I’ve tried many times and don’t mark them either) one thing many people forget, it is very hard to mark shallow kokes as the cone is very small so very little area coverage and they often spook away from the boat. It is easier to mark fish on finder deeper due to more area covered by transducer and less spooky from
Boat. The Kokanee, fight great and are in great shape and eat very well. I Always put them right in
Cooler with lots of ice. Some days on a cool
Morning it’s strange when they are warmer than the air temperature.
So all I’m saying is don’t always rely on preferred temps or your fish finder only, for kokes especially, but it applies to other fish as well. I love chasing kokanee and I catch many a limit at 20 feet and less in
Much warmer water than you would ever expect.
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit. Fish hawk is a great tool and worth the cost.
Good fishing to all for all species!
Lake Powell soon for me I
Hope!
Mildog out
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Thanks for the reply Mildog. I all ways want to talk fishing, and see what others do. I spend a lot of time at least 80 to 100 days on Huntington canyon jigging Tiger trout, but only because it is closer then Powell. I fish Electric lake a couple of times a year. And it has Kokes in it, I catch them when I troll a pop gear, and they are not very deep either. But my favorite way to fish trout, is jigging them. And I usually just use a jig head and a whole or a chunk of chub minnow. And some time a piece of crawler.
But Powell will all ways be my favorite lake, that I have ever fished. Even when its slow, its better then most lakes in the winter.I'm getting ready to go down and see how this full moon is.
Have a good one.
 
KYKevin said:
Thanks for the reply Mildog. I all ways want to talk fishing, and see what others do. I spend a lot of time at least 80 to 100 days on Huntington canyon jigging Tiger trout, but only because it is closer then Powell. I fish Electric lake a couple of times a year. And it has Kokes in it, I catch them when I troll a pop gear, and they are not very deep either. But my favorite way to fish trout, is jigging them. And I usually just use a jig head and a whole or a chunk of chub minnow. And some time a piece of crawler.
But Powell will all ways be my favorite lake, that I have ever fished. Even when its slow, its better then most lakes in the winter.I'm getting ready to go down and see how this full moon is.
Have a good one.
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If I could only use one lure wouldn’t take me one second to say jig!
My favorite method by far, I have caught almost everything in fresh and salt on jigs of some variety plain and tipped from of course Crappie, panfish, trout, bass, walleye, stripers, catfish even, kokanee at the right time, other salmon, barracuda, snappers bottom fish and halibut on jigs!
Keep on jigging!!!
 
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