"Big Wakes!" What to do to stop the madness!

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What’s that saying? “You can’t fix stupid but you can numb it with a 2x4”

Had to help a poor soul rescue his submerged boat last year on the Parker Strip. He’d left it tied to the dock behind his house while he ran up to Lake Havasu City for an errand. Upon his return he found his now-submerged boat still tied to the dock resting on the bottom.

Wake boats.

Would be nice if people exercised a little courtesy and common sense.

“I think that once you quit hearin’ ‘sir’ and ‘maam’ the rest is soon to foller”

- Tommy Lee Jones, No Country For Old Men
 
If the people in the boat creating the wake haven't learned the concept of personal responsibility by the time they are old enough to operate a boat, what exactly makes anyone think that it would be their responsibility to try to instill a concept that should have been taught by their parents.

I just don't see the learning experience for the wake maker being approached by a pi$$ed off boater. That is the concoction for a confrontation that sometimes isn't needed. It isn't my job, or anyone else's to teach what these adults should already have instilled into them.

Sometimes, you just have to choose your battles. Boat happy guys!
 
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If the people in the boat creating the wake haven't learned the concept of personal responsibility by the time they are old enough to operate a boat, what exactly makes anyone think that it would be their responsibility to try to instill a concept that should have been taught by their parents.

I just don't see the learning experience for the wake maker being approached by a pi$$ed off boater. That is the concoction for a confrontation that sometimes isn't needed. It isn't my job, or anyone else's to teach what these adults should already have instilled into them.

Sometimes, you just have to choose your battles. Boat happy guys!
Several years ago I was at dinner with my mother, my wife, and my two (small, at the time) children. In the booth next to us, there were 4 or 5 late teens/ early twenties who were acting fairly rowdy, speaking loudly, and using profanity of the type that is not acceptable in a public setting, no matter how you view profanity. After several minutes, I got up and approached their table. I quietly, and respectfully, stated that I was glad they were having a good time together and didn't want to suggest they not, but explained that my mother, wife, and small children didn't really need to be hearing such language and asked if they could tone it down a bit. To their credit, they were very apologetic and responded to my respectful attitude toward them. Afterward, the language was noticeably cleaner and when the volume would start to climb, one of them would always tell the rest to quiet down. On their way out, they apologized to my wife and mother.

I wouldn't automatically assume appropriate behavior has not been taught to the surf boat drivers who are not being courteous. I know I was taught to be respectful of others (and my parents had no issues with tactile education, if you know what I mean), but sometimes when I got around all of my friends, the rest of the world seemed to blur into the background and we could become obnoxious. Sometimes all it took was someone to say something to bring us back to our senses.

Although I am not deluded enough to think simply asking someone to change their behavior will always bring about the desired response, I think a brash response to these situations is more than likely to make the situation escalate into something ugly. Perhaps if enough of us ask them to be more considerate in a non-threatening manner, more of them will be reminded of something they've been taught and they will start to think about how their actions affect others.
 
Although I am not deluded enough to think simply asking someone to change their behavior will always bring about the desired response, I think a brash response to these situations is more than likely to make the situation escalate into something ugly. Perhaps if enough of us ask them to be more considerate in a non-threatening manner, more of them will be reminded of something they've been taught and they will start to think about how their actions affect others.

Definitely the right approach.

BTW, I also use the bungee anchor rope with a box anchor and it works quite well. Put your bow out to the lake with the bungee rope/anchor and tie the back of your boat to shore with a solid rope. Just pull the rope to bring your boat into shore and let it go and the bungee will pull it back out. This all works great until the bungee internals break (rope is still good). I have had 2 rope failures over the years so I would not leave a boat unattended for a long period.
 
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Although I am not deluded enough to think simply asking someone to change their behavior will always bring about the desired response, I think a brash response to these situations is more than likely to make the situation escalate into something ugly. Perhaps if enough of us ask them to be more considerate in a non-threatening manner, more of them will be reminded of something they've been taught and they will start to think about how their actions affect others.
When my situation happened, I was pretty P.O.'ed (as anyone would be) and it would have been nearly impossible to go up to them and politely say "You damaged my boat, can you please pay for it?" They would have been approached by a very upset boater and I really don't sugar coat anything when I'm P.O.'ed. Anyone who says they could have, I have a $20 bet to say that is a lie
What I keep seeing with people quoting my statements are perfect examples hindsight being 20/20. I would have done that, you should have done that, Yadda Yadda. We made our decision on how to handle the situation and we feel we made the right one. We didn't let one incident ruin our whole vacation. We took the high road and decided to be the better person of the deal.
Bottom line, if people would follow the rules and regulations, this wouldn't happen. Common sense also plays a big factor. If you see a fishing boat floating next to a cliff, stay away from them if you're creating wakes. Just like if you see a skier down flag, stay away.

You guys can continue this conversation. I'm tired of being quoted so I'm out.
Happy boating guys
 
We have a surf boat and would have no problem if someone approached us in a respectful way to let us know we were doing something wrong or causing damage to property. Personally I would feel bad and I think most people would.

having a boat load of people surfing can be a lot for the driver to handle. Its easy to get distracted and not notice where you are making big waves.

Our last trip we ended up in the main part of Gunsight on a beach. I knew we would get pounded with surf waves all day long so I made sure to tie up to protect my stuff. When I am in a cove that's protected I don't worry about it.

So it goes both ways, if you know you are tied up in a open area then get ready to get slammed. If you are driving a surf boat try and stay in open areas where people are expecting to receive your waves.

Surf boats will not go away, nor will the tour boats. I don't beach in the channel then yell at the tour boats. So if I beach in a large open body of water I am not going to yell at the surf boats.

BTW- I recently noticed the tour boats being much more respectful of their wave. I was in the houseboat and they slowed down as they approached us. the captain actually did a very good job of reducing the wave just as we passed. Pretty cool

Mike
 
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It dang sure doesn't do any good to report to the park service, with pictures and boat number clearly readable, the person I talked to and sent the picture to said they would watch out for that boat. What a crock!!! They could have at least sent a warning letter to offender, everything they need is listed under the boat number. They are just to lazy to do it.
 
It dang sure doesn't do any good to report to the park service, with pictures and boat number clearly readable, the person I talked to and sent the picture to said they would watch out for that boat. What a crock!!! They could have at least sent a warning letter to offender, everything they need is listed under the boat number. They are just to lazy to do it.
Skip, that is unfortunate. Without some consequence, as with any law that is not being enforced, the problem will only get worse when offenders know they can get away with it. Very frustrating.

I don't know of any reasonable solution, although I did read up on the new law in CA requiring drivers licenses for boat operators, and I actually liked the direction of the program - hard to say for me who generally thinks anything that includes "more government" is not a good thing! At least a marine drivers license would ensure that an operator knew, at one time, what the law was.
 
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