Why isn't the cut marked as a no passing/no wake zone?

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Marina Bum

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I used the Castle Rock Cut on my way up lake and back in the past week. Both times it was an unnecessarily rough experience. I was passed in my 16x60 HB inside the cut near the West entrance heading East by a surf boat going fast enough to generate quite a wake. The Moron was smiling, waving and mouthing the works thank you. I screamed something that rhymed with thank you back at him and told him he was and idiot. The draft of his vessle was sucking the bow of my houseboat towards him as he came around and crossed back across my bow with his transom only about 5 feet in front of me. I couldn't believe it! I continued honking, gesticulating and cursing him as he went. The boat was crammed with people some of them sitting above the gunnel so I pulled power to avoid hitting them as we were being pulled towards them and we drifted sideways. I got it straight and underway again and things were fine until the exit. (how long until one of these self absorbed morons tries surfing through the cut with oncoming traffic?)

At the other end, exiting East bound on the same pass I spied a Credit Card Captain(Blue turbo slide)entering the cut a few hundred yards out moving quickly and shooting right down the center. I didn't give way because I had nowhere to go without risking my Starboard drive and he panicked. He must have pulled power because he went sideways. Then he went back to full throttle and got it straight and was on his side but passed at full speed. I was screaming at him from the bow for him to slow down!

Upon my return trip through I entered headed West back to Wahweap. I was in the narrow part of the cut and saw two incredibly fast moving craft closing very quickly. I couldn't tell if it was park service, speed boats or jet skis but as they got closer it was the latter. They were moving 60 mph plus and closed very quickly. It was unnerving until I realized they were PWC but still the grown up was upfront and the 12 year old was following in the crowded cut at very high speeds. (Really?)

Upon exiting the cut from what was a harrowing passing every time I looked the markers over carefully again as I went by. The buoy just says caution, go at your own risk. Why are there no markers out designating it a no wake zone? Does Park Service feel they have less liability in designating it a free for all? Would marking it a no wake, no passing zone infer that they have some liability for its condition and someones safety if things go badly?

I just wouldn't recommend that any low time captains use the cut right now in a houseboat and it has nothing to do with the current water level. It has everything to do with how dangerous it has become because smaller more nimble craft can blow by you or at you as fast as their machines will/can go crowding you, pushing and pulling you and leave you bobbing in the wash rebounding off the sidewalls. If you are already less than comfortable with close quarters maneuvering in a houseboat I don't think you'd like it much.

Beyond that I think it's a very dangerous situation because there is no speed limit through it. You don't so much give steering input to a Houseboat at slow speeds with a steering wheel as much as you make suggestions to her especially if its windy. If houseboats start speeding though the cut and their controls become more active and lively somebody could get the bow across the width of the cut and into a speeding Surfboat full of kids pretty quickly. Even if everybody saw it coming and managed to get the engines shut down the momentum could do a lot of damage to the smaller craft and its occupants. Houseboats are slow responding 10 ton vessels without brakes. 20,000 pounds at even 2 miles per hour is a massive amount of kinetic energy.

Next time I use the cut I'm going to station someone up top with an air horn can and a radio so they can advise me and make more noise. After yesterday's sad disaster where a boat in tow turned over near Wahweap killing four people(three of them children) I'm genuinely concerned that another disaster could be looming in the cut because of the number one reason for crashes, excessive speed in close quarters. "Never drive faster in the marina than you're willing to hit something hard" unknown. Same goes for the cutIMG_0953.jpeg
 
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The Moron was smiling, waving and mouthing the works thank you. I screamed something that rhymed with thank you back at him and told him he was and idiot.
Never wrestle with a pig. The pig likes it and you both get dirty. Once you started cussing him out and calling him names he won that argument. They like it. It's like a badge of wake boat honor.


In the grand scheme of things as long as everyone is going the same direction I have no problem being overtaken by any kind of boat. Lets don't over think this people. I just smile and wave them by....
 
First time credit card captain here even though I’m a very experienced surfboat moron captain…went through the cut both ways last week in 75 ft houseboat. Got passed by multiple boats and PWCs and things were pretty tight. Pucker factor was definitely high. I thought some folks were maybe a bit on the edge of going too fast and/or getting close but, I never really felt threatened or unsafe. One aspect of my approach to the situation was “I’m the biggest vessel in the cut so everybody better steer clear of me”...obviously, I was prepared for evasive action if needed. Thankfully, it wasn’t needed. Gotta say the whole experience was exhilarating. It sounds like your experience wasn’t that great and that’s not cool. There are all kinds on the water, guess I just got lucky with the interactions I had. Also, gotta agree with Phillip on the point about wrestling with a pig…

I did what you are are contemplating and, if possible, recommend everybody do it…each direction, I had one of my sons pass through the cut in our villainous sufboat and give me the all clear (of houseboats) over the radio…and had him hold up any houseboats on the other side if needed ( turned out it wasn’t needed…there happened to be no houseboats coming through at the time). Just knowing there’s not another behemoth coming through gives confidence and peace of mind.
 
Sorry if I offended by mentioning that it was a Surfboat, It was only important because of the type of wake that it throws, it really sucked my bow into the trough of the wake/wave draft because they passed me so closely and we came very very near to a collision.

Glad you made it and felt safe and I hope you enjoyed your first piloting experience in a big boat in the cut and your up lake journey! However. Evasive Action in the cut in a HB is a limited options proposition in the best situation. What can you do, you have little room, no brakes and only input suggestions from the wheel at slow speeds, very limited options. Differentially steer into the wall with your motors and keep grinding your gunnel in as you go and that would be about it. In the cut prevention is the cure, everyone taking it easy and respecting one another, It could be a matter of life or death. It's not unlike crowded freeway traffic, if everyone takes it easy traffic will move more smoothly and safely. It only takes a few who want to speed and run others off the road to get one car length ahead who cause all the problems, accidents and delays.

In my opinion the cut is also a two way street so no one should block either entrance for their own convenience, it's a 10 minute float through there at least. If I was piloting a HB and someone was blocking me at the entrance I'd use your advice and and my legal position as the bigger less maneuverable craft and move that boat out of my way with my horn and my size. You can't just turn a houseboat around at the entrance it's way to narrow. What are to do drift there until you're on the beach? Blocking it is a dangerous tactic in my opinion. Not to be too unkind but If someone is not comfortable passing another boat in the cut they should probably reconsider using it until they are. But who could blame you for the trepidation given that it's a free for all in there right now.

This is why, in my opinion, Park Service is so remiss in not managing it as a slow no wake zone for safety sake because pilots of all experience levels in all kinds of craft are going to use it. Anymore the luxury of having the cut open a few weeks a year should be a joyous time for everyone out of Wahweap, for everyone who wants to enjoy the lake. This "free for all" approach is going to cause some accidents and it will be on whomever made the decision to ignore safely managing the cut.
 
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Depends on conditions I guess (like wind or no wind) but, holding the houseboat steady and relatively still outside the cut waiting for another houseboat to pass seemed neither difficult nor inconvenient. If I had somebody come up to me and suggest I hold while another houseboat passes, I would THANK them profusely. I would not want to then continue through with the certainty knowing I’d have to negotiate a very close margin pass of another houseboat.

A couple days prior to returning the houseboat through the cut, I took our boat back through to the marina for supplies…told two houseboats getting ready to enter that another houseboat was coming through behind me. They THANKED me and held their position for a few mins while the other houseboat (named Morning Mist…can’t believe I remember that) came through.

I think your comparison about a crowded freeway is right on point. If everybody takes it slow, deliberate, with good spacing and patience with one another, it makes for a good experience all around.
 
Sadly, it’s not going to matter much longer because it’ll be too shallow to go through. After that, we’ll all get to be frustrated from going through Maytag and the topic will change. Maybe the media is our best bet because NPS doesn’t seem to care. The news headline could be something like this, “Dumb Lake Powell Boaters Wreak Havoc on Others”. 😁

Even though I don’t get disrespectful boaters at Lake Powell, I’ve gotten to the point where it’s become so laughable at the lack of enforcement that I wonder why I use brain power to get mad at these knuckleheads.

I’m just glad that when I return from my two week trip coming up, school will be back in session and the lake will be more quiet. 😄
 
Lake Powell Challenge is held in September. If the above shots are Lake Powell Challenge, they would’ve been taken at least 4 years ago (September 2020)…the last time the Cut was open in September.

That also would’ve also been the last time NO WAKE buoys were present at both Cut entrances.

Since the Cut dried up in 2021, NO WAKE buoys have no longer been installed…most likely because the Cut has only been navigable for a few weeks each year.
 
Lake Powell Challenge is held in September. If the above shots are Lake Powell Challenge, they would’ve been taken at least 4 years ago (September 2020)…the last time the Cut was open in September.

That also would’ve also been the last time NO WAKE buoys were present at both Cut entrances.

Since the Cut dried up in 2021, NO WAKE buoys have no longer been installed…most likely because the Cut has only been navigable for a few weeks each year.
i'm about to join you in going out inthe winter!
 
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