What anchor set up for your fishing boat?

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BarzArz

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Looking for word-ling input for Lake Powell fishing boat anchor configurations?
What's your preference and why?

We use the spot lock on the electric trolling motor a lot, but we are interested in improving our manual anchor set up. Our boat is 20' and approx. 3,500 lbs.
We would appreciate your thoughts...

Thanks in advance!
 
Be interested to see what responses you get. I don’t think too many people utilize anchors at Powell in the open water? Plus seems anchors can get tricky at Powell with all the rocks. We use our spot lock for anchor needs as well.
 
I agree Preston,
I have never deployed an anchor at Powell, other than to tie up overnight at shore. But, am considering improvements to our on-board anchor system, so figured I would try and see what others carry or use.

Hope you and your family have a good holiday this week!
 
Ok so I know that I probably don't count but I anchor all the time. My anchor line is 100 feet and I usually max out in 80 feet of water. This is very helpful while spooning because it holds me over the school. I have never got hung up so bad that I couldn't retrieve it. Sometimes I can't get a good bite but for the most part my anchor works great. Please don't laugh too much at the size of my anchor.
 

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Ok so I know that I probably don't count but I anchor all the time. My anchor line is 100 feet and I usually max out in 80 feet of water. This is very helpful while spooning because it holds me over the school. I have never got hung up so bad that I couldn't retrieve it. Sometimes I can't get a good bite but for the most part my anchor works great. Please don't laugh too much at the size of my anchor.

lol...oops, not laughing:oops:
Thanks, Reed!
That is really neat. Not much weight or wind load really makes a difference. I have been looking at larger versions of that type of anchor as well. I was thinking that might get hung up in rocky bottoms. I have not seen one that compact. Heck, put a night crawler on that and maybe bring a Walleye in when you retrieve your anchor!:D
The anchor we carry in our aluminum bass boat is not much larger and works well. But, that is in small, shallow NM lakes.

Thanks for your input! I really enjoy your fishing posts, that PWC is pretty impressive!
 
My experience is that selecting ground tackle is difficult, not least because every manufacturer is sure they have the best all-round design, but also because testing and standards vary dramatically from one manufacturer to another. From our previous chat in the Bullfrog campground I suspect our situations are somewhat different, and that this will be more than you were asking for, but I'll share our experiences and you can extrapolate to your needs.

When we replaced our 16 ft Boston Whaler with a 21 ft North River Seahawk we doubled the weight and the use changed from lunch anchoring to camping on the boat during storms. My first attempt, a Richter anchor w/ 150 ft of 3 strand line, was a near disaster. While the anchor gets good reviews and apparently works well for many, it was difficult to get the anchor to set at LP and we dragged in a 20 mph wind. Plus the plastic coating quickly tears on LP rocks and mussels hide under the plastic. We decided to up our game by several notches.

Plan B is a 17 lb Mantus anchor w/ 20 ft of 1/4 inch chain and 300 ft of 1/2 inch 8 plait anchor rode. Over the past two years we've camped on the boat about 50 nights with maximum winds of 35 mph. The anchor has set immediately every time and it has never slipped an inch.

After watching tons of comparison videos and advertising propaganda we used the excellent Mantus website to size the anchor based on boat weight, length and wind/use. We chose the 8 plait rode from American Rope because it is easy on the hands and they braided the chain directly to the rode. American Rope's website has good info but isn't great for ordering -- their phone service is excellent, the rope is made in the US, quality is great and the price is fair. I wish I had asked them to braid a 2 ft loop on the bitter end. I wove short lengths of colored parachute cord into the rode every 25 ft, repeating pink, blue, red and green (easy to remember Babies at Christmas), so we can tell at a glance how much rode we have out. The rode flakes easily into a 6 gallon milk crate, which is secured on a large swim platform. The anchor is secured on top of the crate.

After inspecting the shore and selecting an appropriate rock, we use a range finder and sonar to find a spot about 80 - 85 yards from shore with a water depth of 35 ft or less. We drop and set the anchor, then nose onto the shore. We use an old boat trailer winch strap with loops on both ends to pass around a boulder and attach a 1/2 inch, 150 ft bow line with a carabiner. The strap doesn't seem to wear while the bow line showed abrasion quickly before switching to a strap. Both flake into a 4 gallon milk crate that lives in the bow anchor well. Then I pull us about 30 ft off shore with the anchor rode and cleat off the rode and bow line. We typically end up with a 6 or 7 to 1 scope. It is very common for the wind to change direction at night by 90 or even 180 degrees. We are well suspended between a big rock and solid anchor, so we ride well with any wind direction. While it is not generally considered good practice to anchor off the stern, particularly if your bow in on the beach, we haven't had any problems. If I'm preparing for bigger wind, I can slack off both lines and reverse the boat, bow-on to the anchor. In the morning we nose onto the shore, retrieve the strap, pull out to the anchor using the rode and retrieve the anchor -- good morning exercise. Sometimes we have to sag the anchor free -- it really sets.

After several stormy nights on anchor watch I got a lot more conservative about ground tackle. This may be overkill but I sleep well now. Safe Anchoring. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Roger
 
My experience is that selecting ground tackle is difficult, not least because every manufacturer is sure they have the best all-round design, but also because testing and standards vary dramatically from one manufacturer to another. From our previous chat in the Bullfrog campground I suspect our situations are somewhat different, and that this will be more than you were asking for, but I'll share our experiences and you can extrapolate to your needs.
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After several stormy nights on anchor watch I got a lot more conservative about ground tackle. This may be overkill but I sleep well now. Safe Anchoring. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Roger


Roger! Thank you so much for your information! It is really appreciated!

My wife and still talk about meeting you two and visiting on your Awesome boat in the Bullfrog camp ground...and the fish you prepared was incredible!! Such a nice boat and so well rigged, it gave us lots of ideas. We love our new boat and look forward to more time on the lake in 19, we did not get out much this year.

I drove by Blue Mesa last two weeks ago...that is pretty sad.

Maybe we will cross paths again soon...
Hope you both are doing well and have a great Thanksgiving ahead!
 
In my experience, a box anchor is the best anchor available. It holds the first time, does not require chain, and uses less rode than any other anchor.

The downside is they are expensive, heavy, and you really don't want to accidentally kick/step on it as it will cut you.

Buy the smallest size available. You don't need a bigger one.

https://www.slideanchor.com/boxanchor/

Ryan,
Thanks for your reply!

I have not seen a bad review of that anchor, I was planning to do more research on it!
Hope we run across you sometime!
 
My experience is that selecting ground tackle is difficult, not least because every manufacturer is sure they have the best all-round design, but also because testing and standards vary dramatically from one manufacturer to another. From our previous chat in the Bullfrog campground I suspect our situations are somewhat different, and that this will be more than you were asking for, but I'll share our experiences and you can extrapolate to your needs.

When we replaced our 16 ft Boston Whaler with a 21 ft North River Seahawk we doubled the weight and the use changed from lunch anchoring to camping on the boat during storms. My first attempt, a Richter anchor w/ 150 ft of 3 strand line, was a near disaster. While the anchor gets good reviews and apparently works well for many, it was difficult to get the anchor to set at LP and we dragged in a 20 mph wind. Plus the plastic coating quickly tears on LP rocks and mussels hide under the plastic. We decided to up our game by several notches.

Plan B is a 17 lb Mantus anchor w/ 20 ft of 1/4 inch chain and 300 ft of 1/2 inch 8 plait anchor rode. Over the past two years we've camped on the boat about 50 nights with maximum winds of 35 mph. The anchor has set immediately every time and it has never slipped an inch.

After watching tons of comparison videos and advertising propaganda we used the excellent Mantus website to size the anchor based on boat weight, length and wind/use. We chose the 8 plait rode from American Rope because it is easy on the hands and they braided the chain directly to the rode. American Rope's website has good info but isn't great for ordering -- their phone service is excellent, the rope is made in the US, quality is great and the price is fair. I wish I had asked them to braid a 2 ft loop on the bitter end. I wove short lengths of colored parachute cord into the rode every 25 ft, repeating pink, blue, red and green (easy to remember Babies at Christmas), so we can tell at a glance how much rode we have out. The rode flakes easily into a 6 gallon milk crate, which is secured on a large swim platform. The anchor is secured on top of the crate.

After inspecting the shore and selecting an appropriate rock, we use a range finder and sonar to find a spot about 80 - 85 yards from shore with a water depth of 35 ft or less. We drop and set the anchor, then nose onto the shore. We use an old boat trailer winch strap with loops on both ends to pass around a boulder and attach a 1/2 inch, 150 ft bow line with a carabiner. The strap doesn't seem to wear while the bow line showed abrasion quickly before switching to a strap. Both flake into a 4 gallon milk crate that lives in the bow anchor well. Then I pull us about 30 ft off shore with the anchor rode and cleat off the rode and bow line. We typically end up with a 6 or 7 to 1 scope. It is very common for the wind to change direction at night by 90 or even 180 degrees. We are well suspended between a big rock and solid anchor, so we ride well with any wind direction. While it is not generally considered good practice to anchor off the stern, particularly if your bow in on the beach, we haven't had any problems. If I'm preparing for bigger wind, I can slack off both lines and reverse the boat, bow-on to the anchor. In the morning we nose onto the shore, retrieve the strap, pull out to the anchor using the rode and retrieve the anchor -- good morning exercise. Sometimes we have to sag the anchor free -- it really sets.

After several stormy nights on anchor watch I got a lot more conservative about ground tackle. This may be overkill but I sleep well now. Safe Anchoring. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Roger
I have a 21 ft thunder jet very similar to your North River, I would assume your set up would work very well for my boat as well, would you agree? I appreciate the research you put into finding the correct system and saving some of us a bunch of time and failed attempts to get it right! You just saved me several hours of reading and watching videos and probably a fair amount of money. How did you secure the milk crate to the swim deck?Thank You! Dave
 
Dworwood,

Yes, since our boats are of similar size I'd expect a 17 lb Mantus anchor to work well on your TJ. Several other newer design anchors get good reviews too. The Mantus works much better than the Danforths and plow anchors I've used on sail boats or the grabbling hook variety I've used on runabouts in the Caribbean. My off-shore platform incorporates the motor mounts for the primary and trolling outboards, so it is probably different than on your jet. The crate nestles between the transom and the motor mounts, and between the two sets of fuel lines, throttle & choke cables running to the engines. It would be hard for it to move much. I passed a loop of nylon strap material through a hole in the transom where the fuel line and throttle cable to the trolling motor come through and secured it inside the boat. After putting the crate in place, I tie the crate to the loop w/ parachute chord. I was going to take a picture but there is too much snow on the platform and it was -3F this morning, so not today. Good Luck.
 
Dworwood,

Yes, since our boats are of similar size I'd expect a 17 lb Mantus anchor to work well on your TJ. Several other newer design anchors get good reviews too. The Mantus works much better than the Danforths and plow anchors I've used on sail boats or the grabbling hook variety I've used on runabouts in the Caribbean. My off-shore platform incorporates the motor mounts for the primary and trolling outboards, so it is probably different than on your jet. The crate nestles between the transom and the motor mounts, and between the two sets of fuel lines, throttle & choke cables running to the engines. It would be hard for it to move much. I passed a loop of nylon strap material through a hole in the transom where the fuel line and throttle cable to the trolling motor come through and secured it inside the boat. After putting the crate in place, I tie the crate to the loop w/ parachute chord. I was going to take a picture but there is too much snow on the platform and it was -3F this morning, so not today. Good Luck.
I have the two outboards as well so I would think I could set it up very similar. I like what you described and I would like to do it right the first time! I am grateful you shared your experience so I don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Thanks for responding back. Dave
 
One trick I use is to see which way the breeze is blowing and make sure the bottom is headed uphill with the breeze. That way the anchor will hold better being dragged uphill instead of downhill once the breeze turns in to gusts
 
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