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Steve Moore said:
So if one is not able to access their boat is Aramark still allowed to charge slip rental??
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NEWS RELEASE
Glen Canyon National Recreation Area Is Modifying Operations To Implement Local Health Guidance
As Requested by Utah Governor Public Boat Ramps on Lake Powell will be Closed Beginning April 6

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News Release Date: April 4, 2020
Contact: Mary Plumb, 928-608-6202

Glen Canyon National Recreation Area in response to guidance from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Navajo Nation, States of Arizona and Utah, and county and community health departments, is announcing additional modifications to operations to support federal, state, and local efforts to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19).
Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, in coordination with the State of Utah, is closing all public boat ramps on Lake Powell to protect employee and visitor health and safety and provide resource protection by mitigating the risk of quagga mussel contamination to other bodies of water. This closure will remain in effect until the Utah Governor lifts the “Stay at Home Directive” or a determination by health officials is made that ramp operations can be conducted safely under CDC guidelines for social distancing. This temporary closure will go into effect at 5 p.m. on Monday, April 6 and boaters should be prepared to depart by no later than 5 p.m.
Owners of private vessels moored at marinas will be able to access their vessels but due to the suspension of visitor services and public safety resources on Lake Powell, voyaging outside of marinas on private vessels is prohibited. Multiple access areas of Lake Powell remain open for shore-based swimming and water recreation.
In addition to following standard safety guidelines when recreating outdoors, the NPS urges people who choose to visit Glen Canyon during this pandemic to adhere to guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to prevent the spread of infectious diseases. Maintain a safe distance between yourself and other groups; wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds; avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth; cover your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze; and most importantly, stay home if you feel sick.
The health and safety of our visitors, employees, volunteers, and partners is our number one priority. The National Park Service (NPS) is working with federal, state, and local authorities to closely monitor COVID-19. The park is looking forward to full resumption of operations as soon as feasible and will provide updates on our website Glen Canyon National Recreation Area and social media. The NPS urges visitors to do their part when visiting a park and to follow CDC guidance to prevent the spread of infectious diseases. Updates about NPS operations will be posted on www.nps.gov/coronavirus.


You may notice in this press release that some boat owners of moored boats may access their boats:

Owners of private vessels moored at marinas will be able to access their vessels but due to the suspension of visitor services and public safety resources on Lake Powell, voyaging outside of marinas on private vessels is prohibited. Multiple access areas of Lake Powell remain open for shore-based swimming and water recreation.

Again - the situation is fluid and could change again. Lets give it a week or two, take a breath and lets see what happens. WG
 
Steve Moore said:
So if one is not able to access their boat is Aramark still allowed to charge slip rental??
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Steve,

where do you draw the line on when you shouldn’t have to pay? Restaurants can’t open, do they still owe the building owner rent? Renters lost their job, do they still owe the landlord? If renters don’t pay do the building owners /homeowners still owe mortgages, HOA fees, taxes? If mortgage holders don’t pay, does that mean you aren’t entitled to the monthly interst payment on your bonds, CD’s or mutual funds?

Im not looking for an answer or to start a debate, just trying to illustrate that everything is so interconnected- there is no black and white answer for something we as a nation have never experienced[/QUOTE]
 
PowellBride said:
Steve,

where do you draw the line on when you shouldn’t have to pay? Restaurants can’t open, do they still owe the building owner rent? Renters lost their job, do they still owe the landlord? If renters don’t pay do the building owners /homeowners still owe mortgages, HOA fees, taxes? If mortgage holders don’t pay, does that mean you aren’t entitled to the monthly interst payment on your bonds, CD’s or mutual funds?

Im not looking for an answer or to start a debate, just trying to illustrate that everything is so interconnected- there is no black and white answer for something we as a nation have never experienced
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Kind of like peeling an onion, tears and all.👍
 
Only because I have rentals, the marina is providing a service. It is not as encompassing as before. I currently have a couple of college kids, who are trying to hold a rent strike. Their argument is the housing is an entitlement. When I asked who was then responsible. Their response was ”we don’t know or care. They are gone May 15th. In another rental, there is a single mom who was just laid off. I can’t in good conscious start the eviction on May 15th. The work force center is closed, and our state is under a national emergency. I am going to have to eat a few months rent.
My point being is you have every right to ask Aramark to share the burden. You should ask them. If they refuse. You should get as many folks as you can to contact Sen. Romney or Lee. If Aramark is getting any bailout money. They should share the burden or they are gaming the system.

As far as I know, I am not eligible for any government hand out. Everyone is getting a stimulus check to help with the rent.
 
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Thanks for your comments. Our boat is currently at Offshore, but was thinking of others. But in the meantime Aramark gave our slip to another boat which we held for years. Guess there won’t be any Coast Guard help during the holidays
 
Steve Moore said:
Thanks for your comments. Our boat is currently at Offshore, but was thinking of others. But in the meantime Aramark gave our slip to another boat which we held for years. Guess there won’t be any Coast Guard help during the holidays
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Did you pay for the slip all winter? Or did you terminate for the winter with plans to apply anew in 2020? I thought existing leases basically had first right of refusal to renew?
 
Havalina said:
Only because I have rentals, the marina is providing a service. It is not as encompassing as before. I currently have a couple of college kids, who are trying to hold a rent strike. Their argument is the housing is an entitlement. When I asked who was then responsible. Their response was ”we don’t know or care. They are gone May 15th. In another rental, there is a single mom who was just laid off. I can’t in good conscious start the eviction on May 15th. The work forcee center is closed, and our state is under a national emergency. I am going to have to eat a few months rent.
My point being is you have every right to ask Aramark to share the burden. You should ask them. If they refuse. You should get as many folks as you can to contact Sen. Romney or Lee. If Aramark is getting any bailout money. They should share the burden or they are gaming the system.

As fas as I know, I am not eligible for any government hand out. Everyone is getting a stimuls check to help with the rent.
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We also have rentals and are struggling to balance legal vs ethical. I don't see that we'll have any forgiveness from our mortgage. Plus there's insurance, HOA that has to be paid, rent or no rent.

Interesting dilemma
 
So Steve, I just called the Moorage folks on my invoice and spoke to Janet in billing and she said she did not know if there would be some sort of credit on the May storage bill, if so they would send out a notice or it would be reflected in the May billing,... we’ll see ...
 
Also, I went back and read the entire slip lease agreement and NO Where does it say there is a first right to get your slip back if you terminate the lease.
 
PowellBride said:
We also have rentals and are struggling to balance legal vs ethical. I don't see that we'll have any forgiveness from our mortgage. Plus there's insurance, HOA that has to be paid, rent or no rent.

Interesting dilemma
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Small landlords seem to have slipped through the cracks. We are not considered small business owners. I really don't mind working with people, but that rent strike isn’t flying with me.
 
the PPP program with the SBA currently is getting all the attention. But for you small landlords, I think the Economic Injury Disaster loan program may work. It's a loan up to 10K & if you qualify, it does not have to be paid back. Just read the first page on qualifications......you don't have to be incorporated with a fed id#. Anyway, check it out.
 
DQDanny said:
the PPP program with the SBA currently is getting all the attention. But for you small landlords, I think the Economic Injury Disaster loan program may work. It's a loan up to 10K & if you qualify, it does not have to be paid back. Just read the first page on qualifications......you don't have to be incorporated with a fed id#. Anyway, check it out.
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Thanks will look at it. We own the rental properties in our IRA so I’m sure it’s a real outlier in the things that are covered. we may have to just absorb the loss, just as many Americans have absorbed stock market losses in their IRA/401K. It won’t bankrupt me, and if that’s my biggest problem right now....I’ve nothing to compl about
 
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