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Mussel inspection question

Kurt Douglas

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I know this topic has been discussed at length but I had a conversation with a Officer for DOW about dry time for my boat. It was a 20 minute conversation that came down to this officer telling me that ANY boat that has a live well is considered a complex boat and therefor had to either be decontaminated or dry for 30 days, no matter when the boat came out, whether it came out in August, November or February. I don't use my live wells for fish but for tackle storage. He said it didn't matter. Since they can't see the hoses going to the live well, it needed to be decon or wait 30 days. I said, "so basically the dry time that we are told at the ramp AND on the test we all took means absolutely nothing?" He said "thats right." Maybe I have missed something since the arrival of the mussels but I have never been told it needed deconed, just dry time. I last came off the lake on May 26. My 18 days will be up Sunday but according to him I can't go on any lake until the 23rd of June. We had quite the discussion. I told him I would bet a paycheck that I could go to any other lake in Utah after my 18 days and would be just fine. No takers on the bet. If I am wrong, someone please help me to understand. He told me to just plug the live well from outside and I would be fine. I did that earlier and was told by the agent it was illegal to drive with anything plugged. Again, I don't think the right hand knows what the left is doing.

Sorry for the rant. I told the officer I would get clarification from those that know, you wordlings.
Thanks in advance.
 
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4LOJO

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SUMMER 7 days
FALL -SPRING 18 DAYS
WINTER 30 DAYS
Clement Wasicek cell #435-592-9723
AIS Interdiction Specialist
Wahweap Marina
This is how I understand it if you contact Clement and he says different please post I don't want to spread the darn things either. The live well should be drained like the out drive no difference.
 
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Meatwagon

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Sounds strange to me, I think maybe his supervisor should have been asked. Where was this at? I'm pretty sure that the livewell hoses are self draining, same as your outboard engine when lowered. At least on a bass boat.
 
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Kurt Douglas

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I was thinking the same thing as both of you. When I called the Vernal DOW office the first lady didn't know so she gave the person in charge of the inspections for her office. His name is Jordan. According to him the dry time means nothing if you have a complex boat. He defined that as anything that holds water, live well included. Either decon it or wait 30 days. I assured him that NONE of the people working on the stations, anywhere on the lakes I have been at, everything around the Vernal area are saying that. They all say what 4LOJO said. And to think those of you in Utah and the out-of-staters licenses go to pay these people
 

svivian

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I was thinking the same thing as both of you. When I called the Vernal DOW office the first lady didn't know so she gave the person in charge of the inspections for her office. His name is Jordan. According to him the dry time means nothing if you have a complex boat. He defined that as anything that holds water, live well included. Either decon it or wait 30 days. I assured him that NONE of the people working on the stations, anywhere on the lakes I have been at, everything around the Vernal area are saying that. They all say what 4LOJO said. And to think those of you in Utah and the out-of-staters licenses go to pay these people
This is exactly why I get miffed about the $20 AIS that Utah has started. To be clear I have no problems paying when it is being implemented and enforced by the state. I do think it is an important problem to stay on top of and does require these funds to have the equipment and staff to combat the problem. What I don't like is paying for something that no one who is of authority knows about nor is enforcing. I was finally asked to show my proof of payment over memorial weekend at the checkpoint coming out of powell. Prior to that I had boated in Utah 13 times since July of 2020 when it began and not a single office knew or enforced the AIS course. Also how many times have any of you left powell with a half hearted inspection where they are not even looking or checking important areas for mussels? They really need to sit down everyone who is enforcing this and get them on the same page and understand what they are charging people for IMO.
 

Meatwagon

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It sounds like Jordan didn't know or understand what a live well is. Unlike a ballast tank or freshwater, raw water tank a live well can be opened and visually inspected which they always do every time I've been there. I will add that they've always been thorough as well.
 

john

Member
The NPS up here in Weber County have been telling me that for years now.
Complex boats are 30 days Dry time or Decon no matter what, even though their online test says differently.
I was told the test was wrong.

Complex boat= ballast tanks, A/C system, generator, Engine motor (not kidding), live wells, lake water showers.
Anything that pulls water from the lake.

So any boat basically? yup.

Like most situations that can be a potential huge problem, a consistent set of rules and requirements keep most people in line and compliant.
Different rules at every ramp at every lake causes a wee bit of problems and frustration.

Since I know their position now, I just schedule a decon for my cruiser boat right when I come back from Powell and they are happy to do it for me.
 
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