Knockers Update

[Bill Sampson]

I know @Rainbowbridge needed this update. I was on the Lake Powell Houseboating Facebook page yesterday and a salvage firm has been contracted to deal with this houseboat. Someone with better computer skills can probably copy and paste the article for all to read. A salvage company, Seamor Marine. has been contracted to deal with this boat. They sent a remote control rover down to survey the situation and come up with a game plan. They did mention the difficulties encountered with the busy location and flash floods clouding up the water. They state it is 200 meters down and wedged on a ledge.
This is from their website - Next steps of the project will happen in late February and early March, when Cross’s team will return to retrieve the watercraft dangling from the Knocker, secure lines, pump out fuel, and recover small items from the lake bottom.
The boat will remain submerged and become a reef.

 

[RichieW13]

Article: RECOVERING SUNKEN LUXURY HOUSEBOAT AT THE BOTTOM OF LAKE POWELL - SEAMOR Marine Ltd.

 

[Bill Sampson]

Article: RECOVERING SUNKEN LUXURY HOUSEBOAT AT THE BOTTOM OF LAKE POWELL - SEAMOR Marine Ltd.

Thanks for forwarding this.

 

[Gem Morris]

This is more of a promotional piece for Seamor Marine than actual fact based reporting. 650 feet down? 4 to 6 feet waves at mile marker 11? In January?

And where is Cross Marine’s report of the work that was done supposedly in February and March?

 

[Mildog]

Yes the depth at the dam is only 448 feet so I guess the boat slid into a cavern that is 200 plus feet deeper than the lake
Why don’t reporters fact check?
Easy thing to do !
Probably 200 feet deep more likely.
Anyway interesting that NPS would allow it to remain on the bottom.

 

[Canyon Gypsy]

200 meters, close to 600 ft. or more, not a metric guy. Reef maybe. Diving use??? Only for a submarine, not sport divers.
Is it really that deep in that location? How much farther to the bottom?

 

[Canyon Gypsy]

Mildog answered the question. 200 ft. is still pretty deep for diving unless specially trained and using exotic gasses.

 

[Mildog]

See above post the depth listed is not possible it isn’t that deep at dam
448 current depth
Maybe they meant 200 feet that is more possible?

 

[KYKevin]

Kind of like the big Cat fish below the Dam stories, it makes a better story for people that don't know all the facts

 

[Ed_on_WD]

This is not reporting. This is self congratulatory advertising copy written by the company that built the Remotely Operated Underwater Vehicle.

The linked story is dated 1/7/23, so "February or March" has come and gone. Their headline states "Luxury Houseboat Recovery From the Bottom of Lake Powell", and then in the body of the text they say that nothing is being recovered. It "will remain a reef".

We all know that, even at full pool, the water depth is nowhere near 200 meters even at the dam, and back in January the water was shallower than it is now. 200 meters equals 656 feet! And as to "4 to 6 foot waves", we all know that no work boat is going to Mile 11 under those conditions.

I could go on, but I don't want to sound like a troll.

 

[Michael Pyle]

The larger challenge with this dive is the lake altitude. Diving deep in higher altitude lakes is much more complex than sea level dives.

Mike

 

[RichieW13]

This is more of a promotional piece for Seamor Marine

Yeah, it was a pretty empty and vague writeup.

 

[upthecreek]

So not only does the owner get to skip out on cost of removal, now its a reef. Like that's a good thing. Wonder how long lived this precedent will be.

 

[jimmybame]

I’m pretty sure this work happened in April went through there at midnight or so all kinds of flashing lights on work boats but never saw anybody just a bunch of boats anchored to the opposite wall we wondered what was going on

 

[Kevin G]

So not only does the owner get to skip out on cost of removal, now its a reef. Like that's a good thing. Wonder how long lived this precedent will be.

Haha - yep, connecting to some beer can "reefs" at the bottom of the lake as well. I think that was an obvious effort to polish a turd of a situation.

 

[Rainbowbridge]

I know @Rainbowbridge needed this update. I was on the Lake Powell Houseboating Facebook page yesterday and a salvage firm has been contracted to deal with this houseboat. Someone with better computer skills can probably copy and paste the article for all to read. A salvage company, Seamor Marine. has been contracted to deal with this boat. They sent a remote control rover down to survey the situation and come up with a game plan. They did mention the difficulties encountered with the busy location and flash floods clouding up the water. They state it is 200 meters down and wedged on a ledge.
This is from their website - Next steps of the project will happen in late February and early March, when Cross’s team will return to retrieve the watercraft dangling from the Knocker, secure lines, pump out fuel, and recover small items from the lake bottom.
The boat will remain submerged and become a reef.

Thanks Bill for keeping us abreast of sinking Knockers.

I do agree with others here that the rather self serving Seamor article was indeed a........ bust.....

Perhaps the next article will be a bit more titillating.



(Bart's hand is currently hovering over the 'eject adolescents' button.....)

But on a serious note, how do you pump out fuel from 200'+ down? What a job! The fishing boat that sank off the San Juans was only in 100', and that job was fraught with issues. And what does 'secure lines' mean? Like it's going anywhere? Recover small items from the lake bottom? This isn't the Titanic, IMHO. That iPhone is toast. Oh well.....

It just goes to show Knockers always receive stand up attention.....

 

[KYKevin]

Thanks Bill for keeping us abreast of sinking Knockers.

I do agree with others here that the rather self serving Seamor article was indeed a........ bust.....

Perhaps the next article will be a bit more titillating.



(Bart's hand is currently hovering over the 'eject adolescents' button.....)

But on a serious note, how do you pump out fuel from 200'+ down? What a job! The fishing boat that sank off the San Juans was only in 100', and that job was fraught with issues. And what does 'secure lines' mean? Like it's going anywhere? Recover small items from the lake bottom? This isn't the Titanic, IMHO. That iPhone is toast. Oh well.....

It just goes to show Knockers always receive stand up attention.....

You didn't fail us rainbow
I was afraid you might not be feeling good

 

[nzaugg]

Thanks Bill for keeping us abreast of sinking Knockers.

I do agree with others here that the rather self serving Seamor article was indeed a........ bust.....

Perhaps the next article will be a bit more titillating.



(Bart's hand is currently hovering over the 'eject adolescents' button.....)

But on a serious note, how do you pump out fuel from 200'+ down? What a job! The fishing boat that sank off the San Juans was only in 100', and that job was fraught with issues. And what does 'secure lines' mean? Like it's going anywhere? Recover small items from the lake bottom? This isn't the Titanic, IMHO. That iPhone is toast. Oh well.....

It just goes to show Knockers always receive stand up attention.....

The Heart of Lake Powell necklace if found could pay for the recovery, but I think it was taken out in the pilot's pocket.

 

[Rainbowbridge]

The Heart of Lake Powell necklace if found could pay for the recovery, but I think it was taken out in the pilot's pocket.

So, nzaugg.....would that be a "Titanic' find???

 

[Marina Bum]

Mildog answered the question. 200 ft. is still pretty deep for diving unless specially trained and using exotic gasses.

You can dive as deep as you want on air, it's surviving resurfacing that requires mixed gasses and deco time. Lol