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Fly Fishing Q&A

TR.

Well-Known Member
I’ll start with the some pics. I have been getting some questions on surface flies for stripers. There is a newer pattern out by a world class tyer named Drew Chicone named a tuscan bunny. it was made for salt water but boy the action is perfect for stripers. Floating line, long hard strip set. Foam head is irregular and creates great water turbulence. Rabbit strip tail is deadly. If you are tying it would be on whatever hook size you want but I tie them on 2/0, rabbit strip or magnum strip about 2.5 inches long, he dubs in the rabbit color but for LP I think you are fine with some cross cut rabbit for a collar, followed by the foam. Pretty simple tie when you do a few. They are great for singles popping up around you and they will get eaten before they hit the water if you can get them into a boil.
TR
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Dr. Love

Member
I normally use only two flies at Lake Powell. Stripers like a white-on-white clouser minnow 3-4 inches long. Smallmouth like a 1-1 1/2 inch black woolly bugger. l think the woolly bugger simulates a baby catfish. I fish both with a sinking line.
 

TR.

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I normally use only two flies at Lake Powell. Stripers like a white-on-white clouser minnow 3-4 inches long. Smallmouth like a 1-1 1/2 inch black woolly bugger. l think the woolly bugger simulates a baby catfish. I fish both with a sinking line.
Ahhhh Doctor you are missing out on SO much fun. Agreed clousers rock. I do tie a lot of white ones but I tend to add a few peacock herl on top. I believe that helps mimic shad. IMHO there is nothing better than surface action for stripers. I like the popper action when the schools are sub-surface and having trouble getting formed up. The noise/disturbance brings them up from deeper water. Has saved my day many times. Clousers you have to get near them. Poppers bring them to the meal. My favorite smallie and largemouth fly is a meat whistle. Bugger on steroids.

TR
 

broski

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Great time of the year to throw flies due to the spookiness. Backs of canyons. my experience has been motors will put them down very easily but they hang around, so I will go and sit for a few minutes and wait. They look like small ripples on the water, or nervous water as the term goes. If you are fly fishing try a 3/4” non-weighted fly. I’ll try to post a pic in the fly fishing pin.
TR
TR,

what weight line and pole are you using to reach out to skittish stripers? I know I asked you this years ago, but I can't remember now. You are the flymaster on the lake as far as I know, so no one better to ask since I'm in the market for a new pole and reel...
 

dicksturn

Member
Being an avid Fly fisherman, I've caught a 6 1/4 lb cutthroat on a fast river on my 10ft 5 wgt rod. Probably handle a 10 lb or better
6 wgt for up to 15-20 lb and seen 35 lb fish caught on a 7 wgt. Some depends on skill level and luck. Have caught really big fish on 5x tippett then lost the same on 2-3x.
I'm a cheapo and have caught as many fish if not more on my $150 fenwick fly rod as the $1000 winston boys
I'd like to see TR's flies for stripers, and suggestions also
Tight Lines
 
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broski

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Being an avid Fly fisherman, I've caught a 6 1/4 lb cutthroat on a fast river on my 10ft 5 wgt rod. Probably handle a 10 lb or better
6 wgt for up to 15-20 lb and seen 35 lb fish caught on a 7 wgt. Some depends on skill level and luck. Have caught really big fish on 5x tippett then lost the same on 2-3x.
I'm a cheapo and have caught as many fish if not more on my $150 fenwick fly rod as the $1000 winston boys
I'd like to see TR's flies for stripers, and suggestions also
Tight Lines
Thanks Dick!

I'm not so much worried about the weight and fight of the fish, as much as how much line weight, fly weight, backbone of the rod, and technique is needed to reach out a couple hundred feet to a skittish striper! I'm used to Colorado Rivers, where if you have more than 50' of line in the air, you're just as likely to catch a bush as a fish
 

Dorado

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Thanks Dick!

I'm not so much worried about the weight and fight of the fish, as much as how much line weight, fly weight, backbone of the rod, and technique is needed to reach out a couple hundred feet to a skittish striper! I'm used to Colorado Rivers, where if you have more than 50' of line in the air, you're just as likely to catch a bush as a fish
If you can cast a fly line a couple hundred feet, you would be the world champion (the entire fly line is around 90 feet long) ;)

I would consider a bringing a bucket along to make long casting easier, especially with sinking lines. I find when fly casting from the boat, your line finds any possible thing to get hung up on when the line is shooting!

I guess I should be posting on the Fly Fishing pin.....
 

svivian

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If you are double hauling a large fly with a bead head from the front of your boat be careful of your windshield, I have heard stories of guys cracking glass 😭
 

Dorado

Well-Known Member
Good thing I had insurance! $2700, for fancy plexiglass, had to get it custom made. Glass would have been $5K. Clouser minnow with dumbbell eyes, it sounded like bomb went off.....
 

Richard

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Dorado -- Is that a Crestliner ? I had the starboard side glass breakout 10 years ago -- I was tied up to a HB and my son pushed me off -- but he put his weight on the top edge of the Windshield and it shattered ! Insurance covered it and like you said expensive --
 

Dorado

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Dorado -- Is that a Crestliner ? I had the starboard side glass breakout 10 years ago -- I was tied up to a HB and my son pushed me off -- but he put his weight on the top edge of the Windshield and it shattered ! Insurance covered it and like you said expensive --
Yes, 2001 Superhawk. The window manufacturer for that model went out of business, so the only option is a custom made replacement.....another guy I know had a slightly newer Crestliner and was able to get a factory replacement, still cost a lot! He broke his when a rock chip hit the windshield while towing.
 

dicksturn

Member
Thanks TR. Great tips here for fly fisherman. Stealth is more important than extreme casting distance. Hooks flying back and forth in even mild windy conditions can be detrimental to ones health. More line out is more problems. Just match line to reel/rod wgt. For floating/popper flies say a 6 wgt rod/reel 6 wgt fly line weight forward or double taper. I have a spare spool for sinking line. Actually about 7 fly rods and reels to match for different type fishing, Light to heavy.
 

BrianID

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TR,

what weight line and pole are you using to reach out to skittish stripers? I know I asked you this years ago, but I can't remember now. You are the flymaster on the lake as far as I know, so no one better to ask since I'm in the market for a new pole and reel...

I've used as light as a 5 wt and heavy as a 8 wt at Powell. In all honesty, a 5 wt is enough rod for any of the fly fishing I've done at Powell. You may decide you want a heavier rod if you are going to use bigger flies or want the extra back bone of a heavier rod to horse stripers to the boat faster. I've been using my 7 wt for most slurping stripers the last few years. Even though I'm using a smaller fly that a 5 wt would cast fine, the heavier 7 wt rod allows me to get the stripers to the boat quicker so I can get my line back out faster to catch another one.

The ability to cast 80 feet of fly line vs 50 feet isn't near as important as having good boat control. Having good "boat control" makes a huge difference in being successful catching fish with a fly rod at Lake Powell. You can get away with a less than perfect boat control when fishing with a spinning reel or bait casting reel and still catch a fair number of fish. You will struggle to catch many fish at Powell with a fly rod if you don't have good boat control.
 
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