Another Epic Week of Fly Fishing

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I'm back home safe and sound after the best of four trips to Lake Powell over the past 7 years. I teamed up with my friend Charles Carter who spent his college years in Utah and loves both fly fishing and the southern Utah landscape. What made this trip so good was, first, the weather. We had calm and warm conditions from Saturday, May 5th to the morning of May 10th. The second factor, was, of course, the fishing. We found the spawn in full swing with a mega school of tens of thousands of fish on the grab every hour of every day we were there. Without going into detail on the body count for the week, suffice to say we arrived at an area historically known for a spawning rendezvous and between 3 p.m., when we tossed our first fly and 6 p.m. we conservatively caught 80 stripers. Barely half a day and we could tell that we were going to have to pace ourselves! Any notion that we were beating up on the fish, and winning, was quickly replaced by an understanding that we, in fact were the ones who were getting beat up. They just kept coming! The stripers were spread out over acres, perhaps 5 to 10 acres with daisy chained fish making late afternoon and evening appearances both near and far. The fly fishing was straight forward. Throw out, strip in. No countdown. The bass were just below the surface and eager to climb all over our 3 inch Clousers. It was constant doubles. All the fish we caught were prespawn and in prime shape. The size was from 1 and half pounds to 5 pounds. Most were 3 to 4 pounds.

We made camp after our first afternoon close to where the sex party was taking place and dreamed of fishing all night. The next day, Sunday, we paid a visit to our mega school and once again found them eager to chase flies. We did not stay long despite the "just one more potato chip" impulse that set in with, once again, a fish every cast. But we wanted to explore and look for smallies, sunfish, walleye so we headed up Last Chance Canyon and caught all of the above. It was fast fishing at times followed by hunting, which is my favorite, followed by more fast fishing. Our best fly for smallies was anything wooly bugger like. But we also caught stripers on the same relatively tiny fly. Walleye too would eat the wooly bugger.

Over the next three days, we fished from Padre to Dangling Rope marina hitting most of the canyons in between. We did well in Rock Creek canyon on smallies, largemouth, and both post and pre spawn stripers. We did exceptionally well near Dangling rope in the afternoon on stripers and smallies. Some of the stripers were right on shore in small "wolf packs" while others were down deep, around 20+ feet. All were eager. We caught catfish, at bouy 25 along with some very nice smallies and a few stripers. Our favorite structure type was gently sloping slick rock with some amount of rubble mixed in. Generally we could count on smallies up shallow with some bigger females down deeper. Fishing uphill was the secret there. But we also caught plenty of females near beds, virtually all of them with their partners present. We did well in Rock Creek on steep crumbled rock structure mostly for small mouth but surprisingly found quite a few Largemouth too. They were fun to sight fish to, eager to take flies and stunningly strong. Most evenings we finished up near the mega school to use up what little was left of our casting arms for the day. Several evenings we made fresh fish tacos while hanging out and taking in the spectacle seen both on the fish finder and on the surface as bass continued their seasonal ritual. To our surprise, we never saw another fisherman in the area of greatest concentration.

No mechanical problems, no injuries (except bruised sides and hamburger thumbs), easy camping, great food, great company and utterly amazing fishing made this trip, again, one for the books. Lake Powell is a VERY special place in May.
 

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Thanks for the report. It was just as expected. Your fly fishing expertise and the present location of stripers schools make for the prefect storm.

Maybe I should get a fly rod :eek:

This would have been a great opportunity for you or anyone curious about stripers on the fly rod to give it go with virtually guaranteed positive results. At one point I was trying to see how short I could cast to the mega school and still hook up. I got down to around 30 feet, which even a novice caster can achieve. Hope to see you out there one of these years! My next multi day trip might be solo. I absolutely love spending time with my fishing buddies, especially chill guys like Charles, but I also love to get deep into the zone hunting and figuring out fish which, for me at least means fishing alone. On the last morning Charles wanted to walk the shores around camp casting to bass and carp so I headed out in my boat and fished south Padre Bay casting to all the deep slots between the slick rock fingers dipping into the bay as well as the shallow flats near shore. All the species were on the job. Stripers mainly deep and smallies up shallow, all of the smallies close enough to sight fish to. I would cast, strip the fly, get their attention and when they started to follow, I simply had to wait for the fly to "disappear", wait a half a second and then set the hook. They went airborne instantly. So fun! And when I wanted a striper tug, both fishing uphill to the slots from near shore or casting to the slots off shore worked very well. 25 feet deep was the magic depth. As much as we enjoyed the slugfest of the concentrated fish, I think both Charles and I liked the hunt for prowling stripers and territorial smallies and LMB's even more. Anyway, good luck to you on your next trip as well as all others in search of a great spring fishing experience on that gorgeous lake!
 
Dave, I'm an avid fly fisherman and just learning to catch bass with any regularity on LP (not fly fishing). I think you convinced me to try fly fishing next week at LP! Great write-up! -Doug
You will do well. Two years ago we fished top water for smallies and stripers but this trip, with that ultra clear water, we stuck primarily with subsurface flies and fly line because the visual was just as satisfying. You'll kill with a simple brown wooly bugger or similar. Baitfish flies up to four inches also worked just fine for bass but the smaller flies dominated for fast action. We preferred fast sink lines because we had more options. Fast strip when casting to shore to avoid snags, step retrieve to "paint" the contour if casting to shore or fishing deep uphill (casting to deep water from shallow water) with a long countdown were all options with one fly line and fly rod. I used a t-8 shooting head but I think any fast sink line will work fine. We used 10 foot leaders with 8lb Seaguar tippet for bass, 12lb for stripers but the 8lb worked for both stripers and smallies if you retied often and fought bigger fish properly. Clousers were generally better for stripers but they'd also eat those buggers like candy! You likely know all of this already but in case anyone else interested is reading.................hope you have a great time!!
 
You will do well. Two years ago we fished top water for smallies and stripers but this trip, with that ultra clear water, we stuck primarily with subsurface flies and fly line because the visual was just as satisfying. You'll kill with a simple brown wooly bugger or similar. Baitfish flies up to four inches also worked just fine for bass but the smaller flies dominated for fast action. We preferred fast sink lines because we had more options. Fast strip when casting to shore to avoid snags, step retrieve to "paint" the contour if casting to shore or fishing deep uphill (casting to deep water from shallow water) with a long countdown were all options with one fly line and fly rod. I used a t-8 shooting head but I think any fast sink line will work fine. We used 10 foot leaders with 8lb Seaguar tippet for bass, 12lb for stripers but the 8lb worked for both stripers and smallies if you retied often and fought bigger fish properly. Clousers were generally better for stripers but they'd also eat those buggers like candy! You likely know all of this already but in case anyone else interested is reading.................hope you have a great time!!

I didn't know this information, so thank you very much for the details needed to actually make this happen. Cheers!
 
Thanks for sharing all your wisdom Dave! This is great stuff. We were down last Friday and Saturday 4-5 and I also was able to do quite a bit of damage with a fly rod. Didn’t find any stripers up north, but plenty of bass and crappie were caught in 3-5 feet. I would have been unprepared for stripers anyhow with just a 4 wt rod and floating line.

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Hello Mr Sellers -

Without directly asking you where you were fishing...were you able to locate the fish (mega school) with a fish finder, or visually, or just trial and error? We've fished the fall a lot but this will be the first spring trip (of many I hope) and my first trip to Wahweep. We usually fish out of Hite. We have all the fly gear and plan on spending a bit of time trying it next week.

Thanks -
Lee
 
Hello Mr Sellers -

Without directly asking you where you were fishing...were you able to locate the fish (mega school) with a fish finder, or visually, or just trial and error? We've fished the fall a lot but this will be the first spring trip (of many I hope) and my first trip to Wahweep. We usually fish out of Hite. We have all the fly gear and plan on spending a bit of time trying it next week.

Thanks -
Lee
I feel a little weird not "x marking" the specific location because of the unique situation at Lake Powell with the over abundance of predatory fish and especially stripers. However, I am obviously not expert in the fishing culture at Powell so I don't exactly how to proceed with extremely specific information. Maybe I should defer to Wayne on this one, even though that's not very fair either!! What I can tell you is that my buddy Steve and I found the location fair and square a number of years ago in May. We were camped in Padre Bay and ran to Dangling Rope for ice and gas. On the way back to camp at Padre, we smelled spawning fish........recognizing the smell from a lake in Cali called Nacimiento which has an abundant population of white bass (striper cousin) and corresponding spawning spectacle in the stream feeding the lake. The smell is fishy but not like a dead fish. Anyway, Steve and I noticed this same smell from "Naci" at Powell and followed it up wind. It lead right to the school. We saw Wayne a day later after we had hammered the fish and he knew all about the spot (of course). Indirectly, he filled us in as to the why that location was so good. Apparently, oxygenated water is the key to spawning success for striped bass in still water. It isn't moving water that is required for stripers to have spawning success, it's dissolved oxygen, which can be confused with moving water as being essential. As a side note, that observation from Wayne caused quite a stir out here in California as several arm chair experts on stripers, as well as at least one professional biologist that I know of, were unaware of what Wayne discovered regarding still water successful spawning conditions for striped bass and were either defensively in denial or enthusiastically happy to hear about the Wayne's observations . Anyway, back to your question, I mention all of the above because it's a giant hint. No, we did not find fish stacked under the boat via the finder. What we found was a place where the waves from a very long pitch pounded the shore on windy days and (possibly) created a great place for males to apparently tell the ladies that this is the place with the happy O2 level. It's not what I would call typical striper hunting grounds. The bass can be located with trolled flies, as Wayne has disclosed in earlier posts this year. And finally, I guess it's part of Padre Bay but I'm not sure. Regardless, I hope this helps and if someone wants to "x" the spot, no worries on my part!! Dave
 
I feel a little weird not "x marking" the specific location because of the unique situation at Lake Powell with the over abundance of predatory fish and especially stripers. However, I am obviously not expert in the fishing culture at Powell so I don't exactly how to proceed with extremely specific information. Maybe I should defer to Wayne on this one, even though that's not very fair either!! What I can tell you is that my buddy Steve and I found the location fair and square a number of years ago in May. We were camped in Padre Bay and ran to Dangling Rope for ice and gas. On the way back to camp at Padre, we smelled spawning fish........recognizing the smell from a lake in Cali called Nacimiento which has an abundant population of white bass (striper cousin) and corresponding spawning spectacle in the stream feeding the lake. The smell is fishy but not like a dead fish. Anyway, Steve and I noticed this same smell from "Naci" at Powell and followed it up wind. It lead right to the school. We saw Wayne a day later after we had hammered the fish and he knew all about the spot (of course). Indirectly, he filled us in as to the why that location was so good. Apparently, oxygenated water is the key to spawning success for striped bass in still water. It isn't moving water that is required for stripers to have spawning success, it's dissolved oxygen, which can be confused with moving water as being essential. As a side note, that observation from Wayne caused quite a stir out here in California as several arm chair experts on stripers, as well as at least one professional biologist that I know of, were unaware of what Wayne discovered regarding still water successful spawning conditions for striped bass and were either defensively in denial or enthusiastically happy to hear about the Wayne's observations . Anyway, back to your question, I mention all of the above because it's a giant hint. No, we did not find fish stacked under the boat via the finder. What we found was a place where the waves from a very long pitch pounded the shore on windy days and (possibly) created a great place for males to apparently tell the ladies that this is the place with the happy O2 level. It's not what I would call typical striper hunting grounds. The bass can be located with trolled flies, as Wayne has disclosed in earlier posts this year. And finally, I guess it's part of Padre Bay but I'm not sure. Regardless, I hope this helps and if someone wants to "x" the spot, no worries on my part!! Dave
Sounds like bouy #25 wall. Steve & Gena turned TR, Rug & myself on to that spot a few years ago, We thought there was a spring on the NE end of the wall. Sq
 
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Thanks Mr. Sellers! That's good info. We love putting the time in and hunting for the fish, and the hints are appreciated.
 
I feel a little weird not "x marking" the specific location because of the unique situation at Lake Powell with the over abundance of predatory fish and especially stripers. However, I am obviously not expert in the fishing culture at Powell so I don't exactly how to proceed with extremely specific information. Maybe I should defer to Wayne on this one, even though that's not very fair either!! What I can tell you is that my buddy Steve and I found the location fair and square a number of years ago in May. We were camped in Padre Bay and ran to Dangling Rope for ice and gas. On the way back to camp at Padre, we smelled spawning fish........recognizing the smell from a lake in Cali called Nacimiento which has an abundant population of white bass (striper cousin) and corresponding spawning spectacle in the stream feeding the lake. The smell is fishy but not like a dead fish. Anyway, Steve and I noticed this same smell from "Naci" at Powell and followed it up wind. It lead right to the school. We saw Wayne a day later after we had hammered the fish and he knew all about the spot (of course). Indirectly, he filled us in as to the why that location was so good. Apparently, oxygenated water is the key to spawning success for striped bass in still water. It isn't moving water that is required for stripers to have spawning success, it's dissolved oxygen, which can be confused with moving water as being essential. As a side note, that observation from Wayne caused quite a stir out here in California as several arm chair experts on stripers, as well as at least one professional biologist that I know of, were unaware of what Wayne discovered regarding still water successful spawning conditions for striped bass and were either defensively in denial or enthusiastically happy to hear about the Wayne's observations . Anyway, back to your question, I mention all of the above because it's a giant hint. No, we did not find fish stacked under the boat via the finder. What we found was a place where the waves from a very long pitch pounded the shore on windy days and (possibly) created a great place for males to apparently tell the ladies that this is the place with the happy O2 level. It's not what I would call typical striper hunting grounds. The bass can be located with trolled flies, as Wayne has disclosed in earlier posts this year. And finally, I guess it's part of Padre Bay but I'm not sure. Regardless, I hope this helps and if someone wants to "x" the spot, no worries on my part!! Dave

As I have been saying in my fish reports the best place to look is the east wall of Padre Bay. The high walls block the sun and allow the shade to cover the fish longer. Look closer to Cookie Jar than the point where you can turn uplake and go around to buoy 25 and further uplake. I wont give the exact spot because many read the reports and this will cause a traffic jam. Look back in my reports and see the shallow striper pictures. You can see the fish in the clear water with the naked eye.

However things have changed since that report. Stripers are now actively spawning which means they are active at night. I looked along an east wall this morning and found a cluster of super aggressive male stripers. The sun was just barely offering a little light in the east at 4:30 AM (MST) . We trolled to catch (and find) the school and then cast randomly around the spot to catch more fish. We caught fish as fast as we could unhook them and cast again. But as the daylight increased the action slowed. No fish were caught after 5:30 AM.

The plan now is go out after the sun sets and before the sun rises and troll along the walls (lakewide report, it could happen anywhere). When a fish is caught, cast to catch more. When the school quits then troll to find the next group. It is not as hard for me because I know many shorelines well enough to fish them after dark. A new angler should camp in the area, Troll in the daytime to become comfortable with the location. Then go out to catch lots of fish at night.

Dave outlined how to catch fish during the day but I am not a fly fisherman. So I have to use the techniques that I know which is trolling, casting and spooning. We would have caught a lot more fish if we had started at 3 AM this morning but this lake is not very friendly after dark.

The spawning behavior I outline happens in virtually ever canyon the lake. It will continue through the rest of May. If you have a few days then there is the possibility of finding the school and catching lots of fish in the process.
 
i am going to bullfrog this weekend , i will try at the dome rock ,and the wall down from halls that turns sharp . thanks wayne
 
Thanks for sharing all your wisdom Dave! This is great stuff. We were down last Friday and Saturday 4-5 and I also was able to do quite a bit of damage with a fly rod. Didn’t find any stripers up north, but plenty of bass and crappie were caught in 3-5 feet. I would have been unprepared for stripers anyhow with just a 4 wt rod and floating line.

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We’re making a trip down there this weekend. I’m going with my family who will be targeting smallies, crappie and largemouth. Which looks like what you guys caught. Awesome pics by the way! which flies worked best for you guys? Did you throw wooly buggers or clousers or something entirely different?
 
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